Pictures on how to weld a 3rd?

[Volcom]

I'm thinking of just welding the rear on my truck and aussie locking the front with 5.29's .   Anybody have any good pictures on how to weld up a 3rd?  Also, I've got to use the truck next summer for some landscaping projects.  I'll have the bed full of rock or dirt and weighted down pretty good.  How bad would it be to have the rearend welded for that kind of use?  Will I be popping center pins left and right whenever I turn the truck on the street with 2K worth of rock in the back? 

Thanks
Aaron

[79coyotefrg]

probably more like snapping axle shafts 

[Volcom]

probably more like snapping axle shafts 

So, should I wait and not weld the rear 3rd until I'm done with the backyard?

[79coyotefrg]

put the aussie back there

[79coyotefrg]

what part of colorado are you in??

[Volcom]

what part of colorado are you in??

Pueblo, are you from Colorado?

[79coyotefrg]

well no im in Arkansas but i lived in utah for a year, and abandoned a 79 3/4 ton dodge pickup  near colo springs about 15 years ago    was following my dad in a big truck and he stopped at a light in downtown denver and well i didnt    ive always wondered whos truck that drivetrain and new tires ended up under

[Volcom]

put the aussie back there

Do you think that aussie would take that kind of abuse?  I'm afraid to break a locker with that kind of load?  I could just take more trips and lighten the load in the back to 1K or 1500 pounds rather than 2k or even 3K (I did it once, the rear springs were neg. arched  )

[79coyotefrg]

ive haules topsoil befor rounded up over the bed,  had 50psi in the rear tires ans they look ed half flat,   axles were on the bumpstops


i just got done reading up on the aussie,  they dont have a tire size limit like the lockrite and have a 2 year garrantee,  not to mention it said they aussie was intended and designed to be run in toyota trucks

[Hyena]

Prolly be better to weight till after you haul the rock.  All you have to do to weld it is weld the spider gears together.  If you want it stronger then you can also weld the spider gears to the carrier.  You should take the carrier out of the third first and take the bearings off so you don't fry them. 

[Volcom]

I weighed the truck later empty and it weighed in @ 3000 pounds.  I almost had 1.5 ton of rock in the back 

Thanks Hyena for the tips.  If I weld the spiders to the carrier, it's no going back to stock unless I get another 3rd.  If I weld the spiders together, I could if I wanted to go back to open replace the spiders?  I'm new to the welding 3rd's thing .  Thanks

[Jared]

ill take pictures tommorow for you...

[yotaboy79]

ill probaly be pulling my therd to put a new gasket in it soon and i could take a picture then

[Volcom]

Cool, thanks guys!   

[Hyena]

If you weld the spiders to the carrier, all you would need would be another carrier and spider gears if you wanted to go back to stock.  If you weld just the spider gears together, then yes, you can take them out and replace them with stock spider gears.

[Volcom]

If you weld the spiders to the carrier, all you would need would be another carrier and spider gears if you wanted to go back to stock.  If you weld just the spider gears together, then yes, you can take them out and replace them with stock spider gears.

Thanks again!  I'm still deciding if I can live with a welded 3rd on the street or is it worth the 250 bucks to aussie lock it.  It's not going to be a DD but it will get driven to the trails, up to several hundred miles away.

[Plowking]

I just blew apart my locker rear, and had a junk 3rd laying around, after tonite I will know if the welding works.( I chose to weld the side of the spider gear to the carrier, just one gear I figured the teeth would do the rest) I am plowing snow on the east coast and should have 7 inches to move with 500 pounds of salt in the back, the only real bummer the 3rd I installed seems to be geared different from the front, well it was sitting around as a backup for 5 years, all I need is 40 hard miles will post my position on whether my amature stick welding job holds or not.

[Hyena]

If it is not used as a dd then go ahead and weld it.  Mine is a dd and i will be moving my detriot to the front and putting a welded carrier in the back. 

[reklund5]

dude...1.5 tons of rock?!@?!?!

they call it a 1/2 ton truck for a reason!

[Volcom]

dude...1.5 tons of rock?!@?!?!

they call it a 1/2 ton truck for a reason!

   I did a couple of loads like that.  Not bad huh?  The only thing was it was slower than slow down the road and I had to allow some extra braking distance.

[Weldo]

The GVWR for my 91 pickup is like 5300lbs.  My truck only weighs like 3200 lbs empty.  the most weight I ever had in the back was 960 lbs or somewhere around there.  If you had a rear spool or a welded third, would be more likely to break axles and stuff going around corners?

[Volcom]

If you had a rear spool or a welded third, would be more likely to break axles and stuff going around corners?

I don't know, I'd like to know though     Anybody haul heavy loads with a locked or welded rearend???

[reklund5]

Volcom-

Please forgive me if I came off as a smartass with my "they call it a 1/2 ton truck for a reason" comment.  I meant no offense and was just trying to be funny!

Good to hear it took the load well, and I'm sure braking distances increased a little 

Ryan

[yotaboy79]

with a stock axle i wouldent load down the bed any more than id have to for one you risk braking axles and another thing is you can kill wheel bearings very quick, as in one trip my brother had that problem he had fairly new wheel bearings and a welded rear he whent to get some fire wood and loaded the bed full and by the time he got home there was gear oil running out of each end of the axle and alot of play in the bearings, it will kill wheel bearings even unloaded it wont be very quick but it will be more often then with an open diff cus of the added stress on them

[TOYJOETA]

     Have an 80 2wd that we loaded 2 tons of sand in when we were ladscaping or back yard, didn't do to bad, almost felt like I had power steering.

[MidgetMike]

I have a few hundred on a welded third, I don't think its wearing the bearings but it sucks to dd it around town, I am always chirping and jerking but it rocks off road. I would weld the spiders and the carrier so you definitley don't have to do it twice. I did mine in the carrier, I cleaned it realy good and did 1 weld every 10 minutes so I didn't over heat the bearings no problems so far.

[Hyena]

I practiced on a dummy third and fried the bearings.  But it didn't matter.  I am going to put the welded carrier inplace of the carrier on my front third and also switch bearings.  Then that third will go in the rear and the rear detriot one will go in the front.

[Volcom]

Volcom-

Please forgive me if I came off as a smartass with my "they call it a 1/2 ton truck for a reason" comment.  I meant no offense and was just trying to be funny!

Good to hear it took the load well, and I'm sure braking distances increased a little 

Ryan

No offense taken   

[Skinny_Pedal]

heres a welded 3rd

[Hyena]

I will see if i can get a picture of mine tomarrow.  I welded it a LOT.  It isn't gonna break no matter what happens.  I put at least 8 sticks into it.