1KZT

Started by Toy1, February 22, 2005, 09:59:41 AM

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Toy1

Hello :wave:
Does anyone know if the 1KZT 3.0 Turbo Diesel uses the same manual gearbox as the V6.



79coyotefrg

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jr9162

Quote from: Toy1 on February 22, 2005, 09:59:41 AM
Hello :wave:
Does anyone know if the 1KZT 3.0 Turbo Diesel uses the same manual gearbox as the V6.

It uses a R151F with a 160 mm input shaft length (6.5" long), same as the 86-87 turbo truck trannys. The R151F in the 1KZ vehicles has a chain driven Tcase. You can use the 3.0L v6 gearbox on the 1KZ-TE bellhousing, but not the 3.4L v6 because it's input shaft is 190 mm long (7.5").

By the way, Jarco has one with an automatic tranny from a 93-95 Surf. Contact Michael Hooper <[email protected], 770-479-4942  8am-6pm Eastern (M-F). He tells me he drove the vehicle and it's a strong running engine. I believe there's a video clip of it on their website http://www.jarcoinc.com/video/feb05/KZN130-9003222.WMV

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Toy1

Thank you for the information :)

I am going for an engine swap, 2LT to 1KZT
And I were thinking of a dual transfer.
You said it uses a R151F tranny,does that mean that I can bolt the 4cyl transfer on ?
Or do I need the V6 adapter?

jr9162

The R151F from a 86-87 turbo truck (22R-TE) engine will both to the 1KZ-TE bellhousing as it also comes with the R151F gearbox. However the latter gearbox is different in that it has a chain driven Tcase while the 86-87 turbo truck has a gear driven Tcase. You can also use a R150F from a North American 3.0 liter v6 truck on the 1KZ-TE's bellhousing but it also sports a chain driven Tcase.

If your 2L-T has a R series gearbox, I'm interested in the bellhousing. It won't fit a 1KZ-TE engine, and neither will the 3.0 liter v6 bellhousing fit it.

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Toy1

I live in Norway,so the 22R-TE engine has not been sold here :shakehead:
The 2LT uses a G58 gearbox

Toy1

Let see if I have got it right.
I need only the transfer from the 22R TE since they uses the same R151F Gearbox. And I can use any kind of gear driven transfer for the second?

Anyone know if the 22R TE engine are sold outside the US?

jr9162

Quote from: Toy1 on March 04, 2005, 08:25:32 AM
Let see if I have got it right.
I need only the transfer from the 22R TE since they uses the same R151F Gearbox. And I can use any kind of gear driven transfer for the second?

Anyone know if the 22R TE engine are sold outside the US?


The 22R-TE (turbo trucks and 4Runners) were only sold in the US and Canada to my knowledge. The output shaft and housing on the R151F attached to the 22R-TE is different than the 3.0 liter v6 or 1KZ-TE R151F. One is for the gear driven Tcase, the other is for a chain driven Tcase. You can use either gearbox on the 1KZ-TE bellhousing. Marlin makes an adapter to install a geardriven Tcase on the R151F that originally came with a chain driven model.

Does your G58 gearbox have a gear driven or chain driven Tcase?
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Toy1

My G58 uses a gear driven transfer.
Okey,so if I get the adapter for the R151F, I can bolt on any kind of geardriven Tcase right?

jr9162

If you're using a R151F that comes stock with the 1KZ-T, 1KZ-TE, or 3.0 liter v6 you'll need Marlin's adapter to fit it to your gear driven Tcase.

If you're using a R151F that came from a 86-87 turbo truck in the US/Canadian market (22R-TE) you'll need to use the Tcase that came with it (as it has a 23 spline input shaft). Otherwise you'll need to convert your G58's gear driven Tcase to a 23 spline input shaft. Marlin has those also. 
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Toy1

Now my head are start spinning :smack:
Are you 100% sure that the 1kzt uses the R151F?
Talked to Marlin yesterday,and they ment it uses the 150..

I think I should post a pic of the gearbox and transfer,so can we take it from there :)


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Toy1

Here are the pictures of the gearbox and Tcase

jr9162

Interesting, you may want to ask Marlin if your gear driven Tcase (attached to a G58) will physically bolt up to a G52/G54, or W56 gearbox? Those all accomodate a 21 spline Tcase input shaft. If your Tcase won't bolt to them, it certainly won't bolt to a R151F robbed from a 22R-TE equipped vehicle - even if you replace your Tcase's original input shaft with a 23 splne unit.

My presumption is the R151F behind the 1KZ engine and the R150F behind the 3.0 liter v6's use the same chain driven Tcase.

Therefore the only thing I can say for sure is that one can bolt a R151F from a 86-87 turbo truck (22R-TE) or a R150F from a 3.0 liter v6 truck to the 1KZ bellhousing. The bellhousing to gearbox bolt pattern matches, and the gearbox input shaft length is 160 mm - same as the stock R151F behind the 1KZ's bellhousing. 
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Toy1

Unbolted the transfer case yesterday.
And here is the bolt pattern. Seems to me that it uses the same chaindriven transfer :thumbs:
It has 23 splines on the shaft
Then I just have to get the adapter plate for the V6 right?

CruzrDave

That is the pattern we can work with. That is the same as our 30-4gt ( R150f {23 spline} and G58 {26 spline} ).
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