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enough to spin 35s?
« on: Feb 10, 2011, 02:35:23 PM »
hey guys, i have a 85 ex cab 22r, and i know that i cant just go ans spin 35s on it right now very well. so i was wondering if an exhaust new hearders and re-geared diffs would help me get enough power to spin some 35s?
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 10, 2011, 02:42:26 PM »
regearing to 5.29's will net you more "power" than anything else.   after that then a header, maybe a cam but I'd definitely do the regearing first, might as well do a locker while your in there if you plan to do any serious offroading.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 10, 2011, 02:52:13 PM »
Put a jack under the axle and you'll spin them just fine...............


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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 10, 2011, 03:02:56 PM »
Your biggest bang for your buck would be to regear to 5:29's, your clutch will like you also.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 10, 2011, 03:18:32 PM »
I'm running a 22re with a header k&n intake kit and exhaust, i turn 35s just fine with 4.10s. but some times its a pia I will be regearing to 4.88s because i do alot of long trips. I would say to go to 5.29s with a 22r then worry about header and stuff later, what state are you in because there is limits to what header you can get and the ones that are smog legal if your in cali are $$$ which could be spent other places for more power such as cam which they can't see.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 10, 2011, 05:31:20 PM »
i ran 35's with my 22re stock had a freeflowing exhaust and thats it it did alright but i barely could get out of 3rd anywhere in low range off road it had plenty of power
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 10, 2011, 08:42:04 PM »
well im up in alberta canada, and plus this is my dd. haha, about how muhc would it be to gear 5.29?
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 10, 2011, 09:20:27 PM »
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regearing to 5.29's will net you more "power" than anything else.   after that then a header, maybe a cam but I'd definitely do the regearing first, might as well do a locker while your in there if you plan to do any serious offroading.

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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 10, 2011, 10:12:07 PM »
well im up in alberta canada, and plus this is my dd. haha, about how muhc would it be to gear 5.29?

depends if you can gear your self or not. You will need gears which range from 200-400 a set with the master install kit. and then i would do a locker at least while your in there 300-1200+ if you want to do that. then if you can set them up your self your good. if not then i'd say another 200-600 depending on shops in your area and if they do it or not.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 11, 2011, 10:49:39 AM »
ok, thank you guys so much
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 11, 2011, 11:18:40 AM »
or get a complete set up and 5.29's complete third with a locker from Marlin for $636   http://www.marlincrawler.com/differential/complete/spartan-equipped

at THAT price you could regear both front and rear and have them both locked.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 11, 2011, 02:54:51 PM »
or get a complete set up and 5.29's complete third with a locker from Marlin for $636   http://www.marlincrawler.com/differential/complete/spartan-equipped

at THAT price you could regear both front and rear and have them both locked.

x2 then you need longs or you will be breaking birfs every time you go wheelin. and hydro is almost a needed high steer is a must because you will be struggling to steer every time your locked in up front.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 11, 2011, 02:56:27 PM »
No single mod after going to 35s will net you more real stockish drivability than regearing. 5.29s will be perfect.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 11, 2011, 03:10:35 PM »
x2 on the hydro and longs
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 12, 2011, 03:16:20 AM »
i dont really think i want to lock my front or rear. im going to be doing very muhc extreme wheeling, my truck is just more of a trail truck becaue we dont have a very difficult terrain where i live. and whats a hydro and longs? and is 5.29 good for a dd?
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #15 on: Feb 12, 2011, 05:48:49 AM »
hydro assist steering will make your steering wheel easy to turn with the bigger tires longs are better front axel shafts so they dont break with the bigger tires and strees that comes with and 5:29 will bring your truck back to normal driving with stock tires and 4:10's  would be a good set up but if your spending the money to regear id put a locker in atleast the back doesnt have to be locked solid just so if you get in a sticky situation you can get out easier
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #16 on: Feb 12, 2011, 06:53:24 AM »
X2   for the price of that complete diff its like your buying the gears already set up and the locker is free.

I dont like locked in the front myself but WOW what a :deal:
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #17 on: Feb 12, 2011, 09:12:06 AM »
so if i get this marlin locker for the rear what should i do for the front, and if i get this locker, is it much work? or do i just take my axle off and swap it out? or is tehre more to it?
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #18 on: Feb 12, 2011, 11:25:27 AM »
get the same or an elocker for the front
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #19 on: Feb 12, 2011, 11:42:09 AM »
so if i get this marlin locker for the rear what should i do for the front, and if i get this locker, is it much work? or do i just take my axle off and swap it out? or is tehre more to it?
you'll put the rear axle up on jack stands,  remove both rear tires, remove the drive shaft from the differential, remove the brake lines from each drum brake assembly along with the ebrake cables.
remove the 4 bolts at the end of the axle tube (holds the brake drum to the axle).
pull the drums and entire axle shaft out of the axle tube.
now remove the 12mm nuts that go around the differential.   once they are all removed it should pop right out but be careful as its about 60 pounds.
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #20 on: Feb 12, 2011, 12:29:33 PM »
easy as pie
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #21 on: Feb 12, 2011, 04:41:46 PM »
thank you guys so much :)
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #22 on: Feb 12, 2011, 05:41:12 PM »
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #23 on: Feb 12, 2011, 06:00:19 PM »
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #24 on: Feb 23, 2011, 09:50:09 AM »
what kind of exhaust and headers would you guys recomend?
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #25 on: Feb 23, 2011, 01:49:11 PM »
long tube header and a minimum inside diameter of 2 inches,  I run 2 1/4
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #26 on: Feb 23, 2011, 03:22:51 PM »
pace setter headers are great, headmans suck. i would stick with 2.25" exhaust anything bigger you will loose power. and if you run straight pipe with just a muffler it can get rather annoying i would recomend a 16-20" res.
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« Reply #27 on: Feb 23, 2011, 04:06:00 PM »
I recomend you keep your money in the drivetrain and save for gears...
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #28 on: Feb 23, 2011, 05:14:40 PM »
I recomend you keep your money in the drivetrain and save for gears...
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Re: enough to spin 35s?
« Reply #29 on: Feb 23, 2011, 07:47:07 PM »
well i really wanna do the thing with gears, but at the same time id just like to get the small stuff out of the way. so is there like a specific brand, modle, kinda thing i should get for my exhaust and headers?
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