Author Topic: COMMING SOON THE BLUE MARLIN'S REAR DISK BRAKE CONV. WITH PICTS AND PART NUMBERS  (Read 4371 times)

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THATS RIGHT FOLKS YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST THE BLUE MARLIN IS GOING TO BE GOING UNDER THE KNIFE ONCE AGAIN.

I am going to do a rear disk swap and give as much detail into what all is needed and what all is used INCLUDING PART NUMBERS AND PICTURES.

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IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

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and so it was this is a COMPLETE BOLT ON SETUP  

1st off I would Like to thank Every one for being so patient with me while I worked throught the flaws and what not getting this little project together. lets begin

first we had to remove the tire



then we see the brake drum that will be removed



next you will see the brakes shoes themselves.



next you will need to remove the 4 bolts and lock washers on the back side of the axle  I didnt get a pict of this however its basicaly the ONLY FOUR WASHERS THAT ARE ON THE BACKSIDE HOLDING THE AXLE IN

after those 4 bolts are removed you may side the whole axle out becareful not to damage the outer axle seal that is seated inside the axle .



here is the axle with the Backing plate still attached to the axle.



there is a C clip that MUST BE REMOVED  inorder to take the backing plate off make sure you keep this C clip you will need it to rebuild the axle





after you have the C clip off it shold look like this



once that is removed you need to get a SST  IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO PAY THE MONEY FOR THE SST YOU CAN BUILD ONE IF YOU HAVE A OLD REAR AXLE LAYING AROUND.

as seen here I used the half of a rear toyota axle tube to build what will fit in my press to help remove the axle and not the bearing or the bearing cup.



this is the unfinished "HOME MADE SST" at this point I still needed to weld some triangular sides on them so the SSt would rest on the sides of my press if you would like more information on one of these tools let me know and we can get some information on exactly how to make them.

now back to the project.

as you can see with the SST on the axle and the 4 nuts back onto the bearing cup it will look like you have just put the axle back in the housing.



with this you will press DOWN on the axle splines while the SST presses UP  on the backing plate this causes the two pieces to seperate one another. you will then hear a POP noise and the axle will fall away from the backing plate  keep in mind to catch the axle and not let it drop on the ground or else you COULD damage it.
after you have the axle free from the backing plate you should have something that looks like this with out the snap ring



I went one step further and removed the large wheel bearing NOTICE YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS UNLESS YOUR BEARING IS DAMAGED this step can be skipped if its not needed
if it is damaged you will have to remove the bearing from the bearing cup and it will look like this.



as you can see in the above picture there is a press ring that sits ontop of the large bearing if you replace the bearing you will have to remove this as well.it all comes off at once when you press the bearing out of the bearing cup.

you have now completely torn down a axle shaft from the rear axle.

pictures of the ALLPRO disk brake bracket  and the calipers I used and the rotors and pads will be up as soon as I get a chance to get back into the garage with my camera and snap some more :snapshot:
until then I HOPE YOU HAVE GOTTEN ALOT OUT OF PART 1 OF A REAR AXLE DRUM TO DISK CONVERSION :wave:
IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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why dont they just SLOT the backing plate? and slip it off?
Sand, what fun, drop pressure to 12psi, stock tires are still digging, can't afford to get stuck, 8psi, still not working. Find a place to GET OUT, air up, un-lock hubs,  WAIT whats this, hubs are UN-LOCKED already. 2wd, 8psi, stock tires, Oregon sand dunes.

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You will see why in the rebuild pict that I post here shortly
IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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PART 2  

now that you have everything torn down it is time to get the new parts on

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first we will look at the new parts from ALLPRO

the bracket and the bolts come from ALLPRO OFFROAD  







you will need to knock three of the press in studs out of the bearing cup inorder for this kit to work   IT WILL NOT WORK IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS



once this is done you can set this aside and focus on the brake calipers



these are from a 1989 monti carlo



here is the part number for the shoes to fit



the next thing you will need is the caliper in order for these to work YOU MUST HAVE THE INSIDE HOLE THAT THE AXLE REST ON MACHINED LARGER





once you have this done you will be able to instal them as a unit onto the axle you will need to also obtain a brake line screw from the :help: section here is the part number for this
 


then you will also need to get the brake lines I bought mine from ALLPRO and there is a short and long side to match the ones you have with banjo fittings on the ends

you will need to paint the brackets and caliper since they do come unpainted



as you can see I test fitted the bracket onto the axle with the supplied bolts and nuts



once you have it the correct way you can take it off and slide the axleshaft back into the housing so that you can install the rotor and the caliper as shown here

 

make sure you have the brackest going the correct way



then you need to install the brake line  and bleed the brakes



once you have done this you may reinstall the tire and test the new rear disk brakes out  have fun :wave:  :turtle: :turtle: :turtle:



IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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What wheel studs did you use?

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The wheelstuds are stock wheel studs for the rear axle mine look new cause I just rebuilt the axle. The axle is a 1980
IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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Cool. Thanks. Nice job on the write up.

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hmm...redneck jeff is making more modifications...do the nice folks at allpro know that you were gonna be the one doing the work?  :phone: :yikes:

How ya been jeff?

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IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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Have you tested these yet? I just installed a set of rear discs using all 85 SA brake components and a set of Davez brackets. I lose pedal pressure really quickly. I ahve been told I need to add a residual valve to the rear brake lines. Just seeing if you have ran into this problem.

I also run a fj-80 master.

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I have not tested yet however MANY others have said you will need a resi. valve in the rear  if your loosing  travel to much to fast try putting the resi. valve in first  however I did not use SOLID AXLE parts I used multi. parts from the GM line
IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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Yeah i noticed that. If your rotors have any runout, you will have the same problem I am having. Just asking.

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what did you use for rotors ?
I had mine machined out to fit the axle flange.


you can get a valve. at almost any race parts store
IF YOUR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT OF YOUR 4X4 AND YOU CANT SEE THEN JUST TURN ON YOUR WIPERS. BUT THEN THINGS GET ALL MESSED UP LIKE IN LIFE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE JUST THINK THAT ALONG TIME AGO  YOU WERE THE FASTEST LITTLE SWIMMER TO THE EGG

08:55:22 PM BeccaLoo24 – i like to screw things

$99 scratch and dent drill press has drilled more holes than Ron Jeremy.


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nice write up you can use a v6 4runnuers master they have a residual valve for rears just my  :twocents:  i have seen guys say that you need to run a residual valve if running disks or they will back off and give you slopey pedel

 
 
 
 
 

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