Author Topic: 91 extra cab on 60's with 3 link (Fordyce carnage) (Read 149866 times)

THK Matt · « **Reply #330 on:** Mar 08, 2011, 07:20:03 PM »

try an aftermarket diff cover first?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #331 on:** Mar 08, 2011, 07:27:05 PM »

I talked to Dan at ruffstuff and he thinks the new diff cover is gonna make it worse.

THK Matt · « **Reply #332 on:** Mar 08, 2011, 07:32:02 PM »

Quote from: 91 ex-cab on Mar 08, 2011, 07:27:05 PM

I talked to Dan at ruffstuff and he thinks the new diff cover is gonna make it worse.

really? for some reason i think you can avoid that. maybe push your axle out like 3/4in?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #333 on:** Mar 08, 2011, 07:40:23 PM »

Quote from: THK on Mar 08, 2011, 07:32:02 PM

really? for some reason i think you can avoid that. maybe push your axle out like 3/4in?

If anything it would need to be pushed back in 3/4in. I was thinking about building a box structure that will come out off the axle and then go up, I'm not sure if I can make it clear the draglink though.

THK Matt · « **Reply #334 on:** Mar 08, 2011, 07:47:07 PM »

that cud work too. dont bend that panhard.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #335 on:** Mar 08, 2011, 10:18:28 PM »

Build a new bracket altogether for that panhard. That thing wont work.

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #336 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 01:09:04 PM »

well if i were you id get your drag link setup in there and have that thing steering left to right on jack stands. that will show you all the room you got. the problem with buying some brackets pre-made is they have to be modded or they just wont end up working. everything is custom. i think your going to have to make a custom bracket your panhard to work for you.

yotatough · « **Reply #337 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 02:20:06 PM »

can you rotate the PH bracket back a little? looks like that would make it more parellel with the DL and get it away from the dif a little more?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #338 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 02:23:16 PM »

Quote from: yotatough on Mar 09, 2011, 02:20:06 PM

can you rotate the PH bracket back a little? looks like that would make it more parellel with the DL and get it away from the dif a little more?

No, it contacts the diff even more as the bracket is rotated up.

yotatough · « **Reply #339 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 02:23:53 PM »

NM it looks like it might get worse if you did that, might need to go back and get taller at the same time

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #340 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 02:26:21 PM »

I was thinking about making something similar to this, to kick it out and up to clear the diff. http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Offset-Panhard-Tracbar-mount_p_1629.html It's gonna be kinda hard to keep the draglink and panhard parallel to eachother without bending the ph.

yotatough · « **Reply #341 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 02:32:04 PM »

I though it didnt matter if it had a bend in it, just as long as the mounting points where perellel (the pivoting points?)

like a shackle, some think the boomerang shackles change your shackle angle, but its still the same, the angle is messured from bolt to bolt,

is it the same when it comes to links, joint to joint?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #342 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 02:43:47 PM »

Ya it is the same thing. I mean if I make my own bracket it's gonna a little tricky to make them parallel, i'm almost just considering putting a bushing on one end of the panhard and bending it.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #343 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 06:47:17 PM »

Quote from: 91 ex-cab on Mar 08, 2011, 07:08:22 PM

I put the axle to full stuff, and I am pretty sure i'm gonna have to bend the panhard. I'm struggling on the draglink also. SO any suggestions on making the panhard fit?

you got this pic again but turned full driver side?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #344 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 06:52:41 PM »

No but I will go get you one right now.

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #345 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 07:07:20 PM »

here you go,

TacoRunner · « **Reply #346 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 07:17:01 PM »

Whats this distance? to center of tube. Put the tube where you need it before you measure. Also what mounting width are you using and what size bolt?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #347 on:** Mar 09, 2011, 08:07:05 PM »

it really only needs to be kicked out from the center of the axle tube an 1 1/2" to 2", And it needs to be 6 1/2" tall. I am using a 2" mounting width with 5/8 bolt hole. Heres a few more pictures, I kicked the tube back up and on top of the diff rather than in front to allow for more draglink clearance. It is a tight fit but the worst thats gonna happen is the ph barely touches the diff or frame, wich I can fix with my bumpstops.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #348 on:** Mar 10, 2011, 07:40:06 AM »

Quote from: 91 ex-cab on Mar 09, 2011, 08:07:05 PM

it really only needs to be kicked out from the center of the axle tube an 1 1/2" to 2", And it needs to be 6 1/2" tall. I am using a 2" mounting width with 5/8 bolt hole.

REALLY, I could almost send you the Toytoa one.

I'll start a template for it.

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #349 on:** Mar 10, 2011, 09:46:28 AM »

Ya, Well I was thinking I was gonna kick it out in front of the diff until I realized the draglink would be hitting it there. So I took a look and as you can see from the pictuures it fits better on top of the axle were its far away from the draglink and clears the frame and axle by a 1/2" each. Making it a relatively simple bracket, the one I have just doesn't have enough axle seperation to get it up 6 1/2".

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #350 on:** Mar 10, 2011, 09:27:14 PM »

get this thing at full bump and full lock with the drag link in and made! youll know exactly what the trucks doing under a situation like that (which will never happen) and youll be able to design your bracket right there for the panhard bar.

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #351 on:** Mar 10, 2011, 10:14:15 PM »

The axle is at full bump in the last pictures. Panhard is going to go on top of the diff like I am holding it in the last set of pictures, draglink isn't going to get near were the bracket will be. And I sent you a pm about the draglink.

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #352 on:** Mar 11, 2011, 08:55:10 AM »

sorry, its just hard to tell in your pictures cause some of them are above or close up. wash those hands up and take that nice camera out there for a few snaps and go put it back inside the house. it wont get hurt.

heres mine. now the steering is totally accurate in those pictures cause i built tabs off the high steer arms so i can run the tie rod up 6" or so from stock location.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=15616.msg905856#msg905856

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=15616.msg905862#msg905862

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #353 on:** Mar 11, 2011, 09:58:49 AM »

Ya i'm gonna get better pictures next itme I go down to work on the truck.
God dang, your tie rod location is sick as flop

I might have to go to something like that so I can get my hydro assist on. It's gonna be ahard to make a strong mount with the tie rod in stock location.

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #354 on:** Mar 11, 2011, 08:40:50 PM »

if you do it like mine, youll end up having to redo almost everything.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #355 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 11:21:26 AM »

Jack, I've finally finished your bracket. Sorry it took this long. But things going crazy and I've not had the time I thought I would to dedicate to this. Here she is.

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #356 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 12:24:51 PM »

Woow man that thing looks clean! 10x cleaner than what I was going to slap together. Whats the final measurements on it, as far as how far it is offset and how much axle seperation does it have?

TacoRunner · « **Reply #357 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 12:52:59 PM »

Its not a hole lot taller but moves it out a tab further. I hope it fits.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #358 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 12:56:44 PM »

Are you using heims or tre's for your steering?

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #359 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 01:16:37 PM »

Quote from: TacoRunner on Mar 31, 2011, 12:52:59 PM

Its not a hole lot taller but moves it out a tab further. I hope it fits.

ya me to. It's hard to say without looking at it on the axle, where was the panhard gonna be when you put it on the axle?
And I am running heims on my steering.


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