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Air shock advice!
« on: Nov 27, 2004, 12:11:05 AM »
I'm doing an air shock suspention front and rear and just looking for some peps that have any sort of experience with them. I am now debating on wether to go with sway aways air shocks or the fox air shocks  :headscratch:

Here are the Sway away ones  :dunno:
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=148&cat=35&page=1

Here are the fox ones  :dunno:
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=102&cat=34&page=1
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #1 on: Nov 27, 2004, 10:57:03 AM »
Heres a pic of the fox shocks
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #2 on: Nov 27, 2004, 10:57:48 AM »
Heres a pic of the one from sway away
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #3 on: Nov 27, 2004, 05:31:07 PM »
looks the same,   hey it would be way cool if they were set up so you could supply more air to one side or the other if you needed more forced flex
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #4 on: Nov 27, 2004, 06:00:02 PM »
geez! $225 a piece... thats nuts
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #5 on: Nov 27, 2004, 06:02:22 PM »
If I was going to spend $900 on air shocks, out of those two I'd go with the Sway-A-Ways, bigger shaft than the Foxs.

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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #6 on: Nov 27, 2004, 08:30:06 PM »
looks the same,   hey it would be way cool if they were set up so you could supply more air to one side or the other if you needed more forced flex
It is possible if you ran a individual tank of highly pressurized nitrogen to each shock and just pumped them up when you wanted to do that but it wouldn't work to well
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #7 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:04:50 AM »
If I was going to spend $900 on air shocks, out of those two I'd go with the Sway-A-Ways, bigger shaft than the Foxs.
the shocks are bothe the same diameter on the housing but the shaft is only like .2" of an inch in diference. which would be completly unnoticable. The thing is i have heard way more about the Fox shocks and seen them on way more rigs and i have heard nothing about the SA shock nor even seen them on anything.
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #8 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:07:11 AM »
i c a lot of the race runner shocks on the prerunners
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #9 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:09:13 AM »
S-A-W 1 3/8 shaft

FOX 1 1/4 shaft

thats an eighth of an inch

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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #10 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:09:51 AM »
Its stupid to go from "wheeling" a ifs runner to "wheeling" a four linked runner??  You dont have any real wheel time to justify the swap.  Just sas the damned thing and have fun there is no need to spend all the $$ to just look good at the mall and the mudhole.  Learn how to drive first then later when you actually need the mods go for it.  That would be like me going out and getting a vintage fender guitar and a huge marshall amp setup, yeh Ive played guitar before, no Im not great but Im not going to to out and get the best stuff.  It would serve no purpose other than looking cool.
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #11 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:11:47 AM »
dood can you play stairway?

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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #12 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:12:19 AM »
S-A-W 1 3/8 shaft

FOX 1 1/4 shaft

thats an eighth of an inch

so then the diff would be .125"
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #13 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:14:31 AM »
.125=1/8"!!
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #14 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:16:35 AM »
Its stupid to go from "wheeling" a ifs runner to "wheeling" a four linked runner??  You dont have any real wheel time to justify the swap.  Just sas the damned thing and have fun there is no need to spend all the $$ to just look good at the mall and the mudhole.  Learn how to drive first then later when you actually need the mods go for it.  That would be like me going out and getting a vintage fender guitar and a huge marshall amp setup, yeh Ive played guitar before, no Im not great but Im not going to to out and get the best stuff.  It would serve no purpose other than looking cool.
I see where you are coming from and yes i am going for the cool factor but mainly for performance. And yes I am young but i have been wheeling for two years now with my IFS runner and it would be a HUGE jump from IFS to Air Shocks its just i dont want to have to build it twice and I love sand dunes and the air shock suspention would rock in sand.

Maybe i'm just to young  :down:
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #15 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:16:57 AM »
yah 1/8" = .125

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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #16 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:19:46 AM »
age has nothing to do with it but if you want to spend $900 on shocks when you could spend 3/4 of that on something else for your truck then thats your decision

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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #17 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:20:32 AM »
Yup mike you are young and I know what your thinking on the rig.  When I had my datsun in hs I put swampers on it for the cool factor too.  I should have put a good set of normal traction tires on it for half the $$ and had almost the same performance but I wanted to be cool.  So I spent the extra $$ and had half the mileage out of them.  But I had my cool factor. :smack:
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #18 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:22:15 AM »
age has nothing to do with it but if you want to spend $900 on shocks when you could spend 3/4 of that on something else for your truck then thats your decision

(00 and then add about 4000 more to for all of the parts i am going to need. it is so freakin expensive.
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #19 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:22:26 AM »
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I see where you are coming from and yes i am going for the cool factor but mainly for performance. And yes I am young but i have been wheeling for two years now with my IFS runner and it would be a HUGE jump from IFS to Air Shocks its just i dont want to have to build it twice and I love sand dunes and the air shock suspention would rock in sand.

Maybe i'm just to young  :down:
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if u like sand so much why not just do a total chaos ifs lift it. those systems are nuts
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #20 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:25:53 AM »
Cause i love rock crawling as well, even though Reiters Pit doesn't have that good of rock crawling.
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #21 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:28:36 AM »
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #22 on: Nov 28, 2004, 12:32:43 AM »
there probably all comparable so after you choose valving its a matter of prefference

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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #23 on: Nov 28, 2004, 08:23:11 AM »
Mike,  it appears to me you are wanting a mostly sand runner, if you build it for running dunes its still going to do fine in the rocks,  it just wont do as well in the sand,  if i was you i would get the widest tires i could  fit, 13-14 inches wide, but stay under 33's, ifs is a fine sand runner suspension.   im guess ing these air shocks will replace your torsion bars,  you want LOTS of suspension travel,  not neccasarily flex,  i would run some good remote resevoir shocks on the rear, a selectable locker,  and all the power upgrades for your motor i could find
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #24 on: Nov 28, 2004, 10:43:57 AM »
doing the air shock suspention would give me 16" of up and down travle and that would most defintially be enough. My ifs now has nothing even remotly close to that. and for tires I'm getting the 38.5" TSL/SX and there 14.5" wide


and I love sand but it is like 4 hours away  :rivers:
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #25 on: Nov 28, 2004, 03:47:30 PM »
i hope your going to run 5.29's
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #26 on: Nov 28, 2004, 04:16:39 PM »
Oh yeah! with a Marlin SHD clutch


And will marlins drivelines have enough spline travel
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #27 on: Nov 28, 2004, 04:24:36 PM »
im sure that long spline would be plenty,  what are you doing for axle shafts up front??
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #28 on: Nov 28, 2004, 04:27:51 PM »
what engine mods are you planning / have done,    playing in the sand takes grit
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Re: Air shock advice!
« Reply #29 on: Nov 28, 2004, 04:29:29 PM »
im sure that long spline would be plenty,  what are you doing for axle shafts up front??
I bought a stock 85 straight axle and I'll be using that untill it breaks then i will get the new longs
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