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Drive shafts
« on: Oct 28, 2004, 06:34:30 PM »
Hi guys
Hopefully will be getting the new MC10 when shes ready for sale just wondering what rear driveshaft i will needto use .
I have the 2nd gen 4 runner 3" coil springs solid axle front 3" lift approx.
Will i have to change the front drive shaft? it has the standard ifs shaft on it but a bit longer and diffrent .
The rear drive shaft ive heard people saying go for a 1 piece shaft but not sure what this is my angle will be way to much so i need to change it somehow.
Would a double cardan type shaft as in the front help in the rear.\
If anyone has pics of their front and rear shafts on a coil rear 4runner with dual cases id appreciate a look .
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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #1 on: Oct 28, 2004, 08:06:52 PM »
A double cardon joint will help the angle fo the driveline. I haven't heard anything about the MC10.   Is the MC10 a single or dual transfercase? 

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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #2 on: Oct 28, 2004, 10:38:11 PM »
Hi guys
Hopefully will be getting the new MC10 when shes ready for sale just wondering what rear driveshaft i will needto use .
I have the 2nd gen 4 runner 3" coil springs solid axle front 3" lift approx.
Will i have to change the front drive shaft? it has the standard ifs shaft on it but a bit longer and diffrent .
The rear drive shaft ive heard people saying go for a 1 piece shaft but not sure what this is my angle will be way to much so i need to change it somehow.
Would a double cardan type shaft as in the front help in the rear.\
If anyone has pics of their front and rear shafts on a coil rear 4runner with dual cases id appreciate a look .
Thanks in advance
Dave
Hey surfindave, that's awesome! You're gonna love dual cases! :love:
Your front drive shaft can be used, it just needs to be lengthened. Since this is a new adapter, I don't know exactly by how much, I would guess by looking at it it's about 7.5" longer.
Since you will be using the same gear drive transfercase that you have now (the VF1A), the same front output flange is used over again and therefore the same driveline can be used since its the same part. Just get it lengthened :thumbs:

As for people telling you to use a one piece rear driveline, you've already got a one piece rear drive line, so that is not a concern.

A double cardan type joint, oh Constant Velocity joint, can be used and is preferred for all short bed vehicles (like your 4Runner, same short bed frame length) with a lift of about 3" or higher. Some people get vibration between 50 - 60MPH and this is caused from a steep rear driveline angle. The CV joint driveline will solve this problem.

I know your truck must be a V6 because it has a chain drive transfercase and you want to run the MC10, so I know its not an auto because the MC10 will not work with any 89-95 autos, so the driveline that you need is from another 3.0L V6 4WD pickup from the front. So basically you need two front drive shafts that fit your rig. Then take both down to your driveline shop, and have the one of them lengthened to your front driveline measurements, and have the other one also lengthened to your rear driveline measurements, and then you're set with two driveshafts both with CV joints :disturbed:


I haven't heard anything about the MC10. Is the MC10 a single or dual transfercase?
It's our latest development for a 1989-1995 3.0L V6 4WD truck that uses a chain drive transfercase. It's a dualcase adapter that uses the older gear driven reduction housing (aka the Crawl Box) and then the MC10 allows the stock chain drive transfercase to be used behind the gear driven crawl box.

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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #3 on: Oct 28, 2004, 11:19:01 PM »
Thanks BigMke
I actualy have a turbo diesel with a automatic transmisson.
Its the A343F with the divorcable transfercase.
You dont think i can use the setup of the MC10?
I thought it would as the Tacoma uses a similar type chain case and the MC9 and can be mated to either manual or auto.
Correct me if im wrong though which i prob am and will be spewin .
Marlin actualy said i can use the same adaptor as the R150f only i need to use a different coupler and oversize bearing. heres the thread.
BigMike do you think you could ask Malin if the MC10 will work on my A343F auto i hope so cause im sending a bank draft next week LOLOL.
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http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=3125.0

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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #4 on: Oct 29, 2004, 12:01:32 AM »
I will ask, but I was under the impression that the MC10 was ONLY for the first generation chain drive transfercases which were only found behind V6 5spds.

You are correctn, the automatic you have uses the 2nd gen chain drive tcase as found on the Tacos. But this transfercase has a different front bolt pattern..

I will talk to Marlin about this and get back to you.
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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #5 on: Oct 29, 2004, 02:07:43 AM »
Thanks Mate
If not then would i be able to use this doubler kit that you sell.
 
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I hope i can go with the MC10 but either way im goin duals and sending the money .
I have a 2" body lift will that affect anything?
Sorry for all the Qs just wanna make sure i get evrything right before i get .
Thaks heaps BigMike
Dave
PS how do you tell the difference between the 1st gen chain case and 2nd gen 1s?
I cant find any pics of chain cases anywhere even on the newer tacoma that uses the MC09
Heres a pic of my truck not sure if you class it as a 1st or 2nd gen 4runner


 
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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #6 on: Oct 29, 2004, 04:52:53 PM »
Hey Mike, Is there enough flex from a CV front shaft that is out of a 90's runner to operate properly in a lifted truck? I am also in the same dilema. When I took out the front shaft it does not appear that the CV has much movement in it.

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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #7 on: Oct 29, 2004, 10:21:14 PM »
Hey Mike
Ive just been lookin under my truk and with the auto it is about 3" longer than the manual so my drive shaft is going to be even greater an angle with the duals will i still be able to use the cv style ?
Also looking at where the last trans case will end it looks like it will hit the handbrake cable bracket it sits on a bracket on my fuel tank. Is this where the 4 runners are on the US 1s?
Here is a pic om my transfer style case .
Notice the 4wd stick lever is in the front aluminium housing not on top of the Tcase.
And a side view that shows the transmision to transfer case aluminium adaptor i know its not that good a shot.
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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #8 on: Oct 29, 2004, 10:37:33 PM »
Heres that pic of the adaptor part wouldnt fit on other post

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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #9 on: Nov 05, 2004, 02:42:27 AM »
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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #10 on: Nov 05, 2004, 08:59:43 AM »
........the tcase sure looks the same
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Re: Drive shafts
« Reply #11 on: Nov 17, 2004, 12:52:32 AM »
This is the pic i am talikn about mike Top 2





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