Author Topic: New Product - Rear 4" Leaf Springs & Kits (Read 8315 times)

Marketing · « **on:** Oct 20, 2004, 09:53:21 AM »

Our new rear leaf springs are now in production. These new springs will be a 4" lift, and 56" long. Both front and rear hangers will need to be relocated on 79-88 toys, 89-95 only the front hanger will need to be moved forward. Spring packs include top anti wrap torque leaf. These spring are made start to finish here in the USA.

How do these compare with brand "A" springs? To start with they will be a more flexible, softer ride. Superior heat treat process that resists early fatigue and bending of the leafs, allowing the springs to last longer and maintain lift without sagging. Springs are 1/2" longer than similar sized 4" springs for better shackle angle. Our springs are made completely here in the US, brand "A" springs are made in Mexico.

Price $349 per pair including bushings.

Rear Kit price $649. Includes, springs, Bilstein shocks, rear flip kit, rear perches, shock mounts, shackles, and brake line.

Our 1979-1985 Ultimate lift kit featuring our USA built springs front and rear. Kit will include, front and rear 4" springs, shackles, front hanger, rear hangers, 4 bilstein shocks, shock hoops, steering stablizer, rear shock mounts, flip kits, rear perches, set of three brake lines, high steer kit with mount. Ultimate Lift Kit $1,795

GmanRocks · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 20, 2004, 11:16:44 AM »

So the Ultimate Kit - would that be for a 1986-1989 4runner running 35" MTRs? Would that include everything in your Front Solid Axle Swap kit (including spacers and bumpstops (not mentioned in your post)?

If so, to run 35" MTRs what backspacing would I order on my rims? and what modifications would I need to do so that they don't rub? (Meaning do I just need to smooth the inner seam in the drivers wheel well?)

Thanks,
Tim

Marketing · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 20, 2004, 12:28:02 PM »

The Ultimate Lift Kit will be available in two models, 79-85 for $1,799 and the 86-95 for $1,995

Marketing · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 20, 2004, 12:51:26 PM »

Now Taking Orders: Ultimate Truck Kit - $8,295

This Kit Includes:

Front Solid Axle Swap Kit
Rear 56" Spring Kit
Rock Sliders
Front Bumper w/9500ti Winch
Rear Wraparound Bumper
Dual Ultimate Crawler
Dual Crossmember
High Angle Long Travel Front & CV Rear Driveshafts
High Pinion Front Diff w/ 4.88 or 5.29 Gears and Detroit Locker
V6 Rear Diff w/ 4.88 or 5.29 Gears and Detroit Locker
Front Diff Armor
Front Axle Truss
Marlin Hat and Shirt

Add to this a set of tires, wheels and a used front axle and you have yourself a complete truck!

$450 additional core charges for original transfer case and drive shafts. No core charge will be applied if you return these parts at time of purchase. Core charges will be refunded upon return of core parts.

Price above is based on 1986-1995 short bed pickup w/4cyl manual transmission. Other applications will very slightly in price.

Knucklehead · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 20, 2004, 01:26:59 PM »

Don't forget driveshafts!

Marketing · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 20, 2004, 03:58:07 PM »

Drive shafts were in my notes but I forgot to type it above, I just added it in. Thanks for the heads up!

GmanRocks · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 21, 2004, 08:49:12 AM »

To run 35" MTRs what backspacing would I order on my rims? and what modifications would I need to do so that they don't rub? (Meaning do I just need to smooth the inner seam in the drivers front wheel well?)

Thanks,
Tim

Marketing · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 21, 2004, 10:06:44 AM »

Quote from: GmanRocks on Oct 21, 2004, 08:49:12 AM

To run 35" MTRs what backspacing would I order on my rims? and what modifications would I need to do so that they don't rub? (Meaning do I just need to smooth the inner seam in the drivers front wheel well?)

Thanks,
Tim

That depends on the axle, what axle are we talking about?

GmanRocks · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 21, 2004, 04:09:19 PM »

Toyota axle off of a 84 Toyota pickup. I'm guessing that the answer will have backspacing for the wheels and how big the front spacers need to be?

Thanks, Tim

Marketing · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 21, 2004, 04:24:18 PM »

I would not recommend using that axle. You would need a wheel offset as far out as possable, like 2" in further than stock wheels. I would switch to the 3" wider 1986 and later rear axle, and then use offset wheels on top of that.

Up front you can use 1.5" wheel spacers to match the rear.

cc89iroc · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 24, 2004, 10:03:14 PM »

can you sell this kit with stock srping locations for an 85 4runner i know the rear springs would have to be shorter.How do you think it would work and how much would it cost?
thanks

Marketing · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 25, 2004, 02:35:21 PM »

No shorter rear lift springs do not work well. We do not plan that.

To use our springs you will need to relocate the hangers.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 26, 2004, 06:39:35 AM »

So if I understand correctly the rear springs are the same dimensions as 89+ rear springs? I hope so I NEED a set for the front of my truck!

Tool Guy · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 26, 2004, 09:54:49 PM »

What kind of wheel travel could a person expect out of the '79-'85 Ultimate lift kit? And does this kit result in moving the hangers on the front of the truck?
In the mean time I will try to explain to the ol'lady why I so badly need this lift kit...

Marketing · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 26, 2004, 11:18:32 PM »

Quote from: Tool Guy on Oct 26, 2004, 09:54:49 PM

What kind of wheel travel could a person expect out of the '79-'85 Ultimate lift kit? And does this kit result in moving the hangers on the front of the truck?
In the mean time I will try to explain to the ol'lady why I so badly need this lift kit...

Front hangers on the front of the truck would be replaced. All four hangers on the rear of the truck will need to be changes. Ramp numbers will change with whelbase and weight, but shoud be around 1000 rti when loaded for the trail assuming shortbed cab.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 27, 2004, 06:03:23 AM »

What are the dimensions from center pin to front and to the rear on the rear springs?

Tool Guy · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 27, 2004, 09:08:42 PM »

maybe a dumb question, but how does this kit affect the pinion angle for both front and rear?

If it helps: Regular cab '84.

By the way, thank you for the quick response Chris.

Marketing · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 01, 2004, 01:40:32 PM »

Quote from: Tool Guy on Oct 27, 2004, 09:08:42 PM

maybe a dumb question, but how does this kit affect the pinion angle for both front and rear?

If it helps: Regular cab '84.

By the way, thank you for the quick response Chris.

In the front we recommend you cut and turn the knuckles or install a high pinion 3rd member.

In the rear we recommend you cut the rear perches off, rotate the pinion so it points at the tcase, weld on new perches and install a CV on the tcase end of the drive shaft.

Marketing · « **Reply #18 on:** Nov 01, 2004, 01:48:13 PM »

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on Oct 27, 2004, 06:03:23 AM

What are the dimensions from center pin to front and to the rear on the rear springs?

29 1/4" pin to front
26 3/4" pin to rear

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 01, 2004, 02:36:53 PM »

Thanks Chris, thats the info I was looking for

jayson161 · « **Reply #20 on:** Nov 24, 2004, 12:13:48 AM »

hey chris, do you have an estimate of when the springs will be in? i keep hearing any day now, just curious. thanks

Jase · « **Reply #21 on:** Nov 26, 2004, 01:02:14 PM »

The measurements for for the rear springs seem backwards, wouldnt the longer side of the spring be in the rear? I was told that on a 85 runner the front mount would be apx. 6" forward and have to move the rear back about 1.5 to 2. inches for those springs (unless missinformed). That wouldnt come out right for those measurements.

Marketing · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 29, 2004, 10:23:03 AM »

Yep it looks like I had the measurements backward. The correct measurements are

Center pin to front 27"

Center pin to rear 29 5/8"

Overall length 56 5/8"

We just received our first order of production US made, rear springs and they are looking sweet! Rear springs are now shipping!

jayson161 · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 29, 2004, 12:50:48 PM »

sweet. im stoked to get them. been a long wait but im sure they will be worth it.

BlackTop · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 29, 2004, 08:35:37 PM »

sweet I'll call you guys tomorrow

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