What do you see in these pics?

Started by kneedownnate, September 21, 2008, 09:43:31 PM

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kneedownnate

I posted these pics on another board and some people are telling me I'm not seeing what I know I am.  The purpose of asking you guys what you see is so you can offer your opinion with absolutely no bias.  Hope that helps!

Remember, you'll see more detail by opening it in another tab/window so it comes up as the full size pic.  And if you look at the pic and instantly think you see it, you don't.  You'll need to look a little closer and look at the detail...
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jrock

#1 An elephant on the plains with grass in the distance and clouds in the sky. Or the grass is on fire with the whiter area being the flames and the elephant running away.
#2 A mountain range with an  overcast sky.
#3 Ground (darker, inner tire) with a fire burning just above it. The scuffs are particulate in the, air rising into the clouds of smoke (the lighter color on the tread)
#4 A scruffy beard.

You asked what I see.  :gap:

kneedownnate

Quote from: jkief86 on September 22, 2008, 09:33:05 PM
#1 An elephant on the plains with grass in the distance and clouds in the sky. Or the grass is on fire with the whiter area being the flames and the elephant running away.
#2 A mountain range with an  overcast sky.
#3 Ground (darker, inner tire) with a fire burning just above it. The scuffs are particulate in the, air rising into the clouds of smoke (the lighter color on the tread)
#4 A scruffy beard.

You asked what I see.  :gap:

Put down the crack pipe fruity whip  :yupyup:
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

jrock


kneedownnate

Ok, but seriously, it's not an artistic impression.  It's something to do with the rubber.  I just need to get some more input.
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

porkchop

Quote from: kneedownnate on September 22, 2008, 09:44:48 PM
Ok, but seriously, it's not an artistic impression.  It's something to do with the rubber.  I just need to get some more input.
My input is you are smoked up? sorry man I do not see nuffin
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kvn85

Something is rubbing the tire or you only turn one way . why so much where on the one side
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kneedownnate

If you're referring to the wet tire in the last pic, forget about that tire  :gap:  That's just a pic to tide duffil over.  You're a little right on that one though.  That was the tire I got just before a track day, shagged half the tread off that day then wore it down to what you see in a little over 2000 miles on the street.  I don't ride like that since the crash, but it sure was fun  :yupyup:
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

kneedownnate

Ok, here's the deal.  I'd posted the first 3 pics on a motorbike site and everybody kept telling me it's just normal tire wear and bad suspension setup.  It's neither, so I was getting  :maddest:  when people kept insisting it's normal.  What you're actually seeing is the rubber cracking and in the early stages of separating.  The tires are just a little over 2 years old, so there's no reason they should be coming apart so early, not to mention I haven't ridden hard or done track days on them.  I was just getting frustrated with the responses and wanted to show the pics to a crowd who's A:  not necessarily familiar with motorbike tires and B:  has no idea or previous knowledge of the condition of the tires.

I didn't get the feedback from you all I'd hoped, but I got consistent unbiased feedback which is what I needed.  I now know that nobody but me can see the cracks in the 1st and 3rd pics, despite the fact that they're most definately there.  I posted the 2nd pic because it's the only side of either tire which hasn't begun to come apart, and the 4th pic was a big hint since it's also cracked up to a much greater degree.

Thanks everybody for helping with my little experiment  :wave:  I still need to hear back from the guy, but with any luck I'll be getting these tires asap.  They're multi-compound tires and I've heard great things about them.  The center of the front is a harder compound, while the outer most edges are a softer compound to grip better while leaned over in a corner.  The rear is similar except it's a 3 compound tire with a harder center, softer mid-sides and even softer outer most edges.  I'll be pretty stoked to try them out, and it'll be the first time I've ever run any bridgestone tires on ANY motorbikes I've ever owned!
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

Cheesemaker

I was gonna say tire rot, or they got in contact with oil/gas! 
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toyotanner

why didnt you say what can you see is wrong with these tires.... not... what do you see in these pictures :ha_ha:

kneedownnate

Because that would have been planting the seed in your head of there being an issue.  I only said "what do you see in these pictures" in the thread title and first post, but I did clarify a few times afterward.  If I just ask what you see when you CAREFULLY LOOK at the tires, and I said it plenty of times and gave specific enough directions what to do, people should have, and did, figured it out. 

The problem is people are inherently lazy and look for the easy way out, so if you're drawn to something like a mark in the tire you're probably not going to look for more detail and will just hope that's it.  That's why I encouraged people to look a little more and said that if you saw something quickly it probably wasn't what you were looking for  :thumbs:  It was also kind of an experiment  :yupyup:

Anyway, it sounds like I'm getting those tires for over $100 off what they'd cost to buy new.  The guy just bought them last week and ended up using a different set of tires he had. 
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!