Topic: Harbor Frieght pipe bender

[DTPROFAB]

Blue toy 84 I'm with you.... coming from a forum that critisizes people for buying the "competitors" stuff because its $100 or more cheaper.  If everyone is bucking up to buy all marlin components why will no one buck up to buy a $300 manual bender that you don't need "sand" or what ever pixi dust you need to get a good accurate bend. Just look at the poll 70+ people and 75% say its crap or you get what you pay for... so I ask. Whose dual case is better marlins dual row mc07 for $150 dollars more with limmited warrenty or the cheaper tg dual adapter with a no questions asked lifetime no matter what warrenty?  Its off topic but the mc07 is why we are here why is no one giving links to better benders than a hf for an affordable price

[69 cruiser]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned northern tool's model. It's only 160 and typically their quality is a a little more higher than HF

[wilderXJ]

My buddy used the hf model for his whole exo. No probs, been rubber side up twice

[95toyrunner]

My buddy used the hf model for his whole exo. No probs, been rubber side up twice

What pipe/tube did he use? Did he pack it with sand or just bend it plain straight up?

[MeSwoleShane]

Its not a exo. or Toyota but I used a HF bender with sch 40 and sand to make a wake board tower.

[wilderXJ]

What pipe/tube did he use? Did he pack it with sand or just bend it plain straight up?

No sand, just bent the ,   he used schd 40.  yes i know why you shouldn't use "pipe" for a cage

[Snowtoy]

What pipe/tube did he use? Did he pack it with sand or just bend it plain straight up?

Sand shouldn't be needed w/pipe, since that is what the HF bender is designed for.  Sand is only needed when using tube, to prevent the tube from flattening and reducing rippling along the inside edge of 90* bends.  With sand and a little heat(about 150* i.e., about what they would heat up to in the summer sun), you can get pretty good bends in tube using a pipe bender. 

[95toyrunner]

No sand, just bent the ,   he used schd 40.  yes i know why you shouldn't use "pipe" for a cage

Why should you use pipe for a cage? Is it just too weak?

[MeSwoleShane]

I had to use sand to get those bends close to 90. Without sand it would flatten out on the outside of the bends. Not too bad if it was for a cage I wouldn't feel safe...

[wilderXJ]

Why should you use pipe for a cage? Is it just too weak?

Pipe is not structural, not designed to carry a load, tubing is designed for that.   On that note i have seen schd 40 used many times, with no/few problems, its just not recommended.  And thats why DOM tubing cost so much more than schd 40 pipe.   But in the long run i guess something is better than nothing!

[geddofab]

the hf PIPE bender bends PIPE not tubing. big difference, tubing's measured outside edge to outside edge.  pipe is measured from the inside to inside. which is easier to calculate flow. so 1'' tubing will measure 1'' on the outside. with pipe you have to add the wall thickness times two, so lets say its 1/8''wall . the PIPE would measure 1  1/4'' outside diameter . if you get a hf pipe bender and put  tubing in it. it will kink because its too small for the die. if you put pipe in a tubing bender you will find its to big. you might feel inclined to cheat and put bigger TUBING in a PIPE bender to make up the diff. if you can do this and get away with it good for you plus on top of that tubing and pipe behave in different ways under loads for a bunch of different reasons, which is a whole different story

[IronClad]

Pipe is not structural, not designed to carry a load, tubing is designed for that.   

Dont talk about things you dont know..  Pipe is used in structural building all the time

[TacoRunner]

Can you give us an example please.

[yota4x4sc]

hand railing son and the supports for them

[IronClad]

seat of the pants 2 second google search http://www.southlandpipe.net/Steel_Pipe/structural_grade_steel_pipe.html herp a derp  "We custom fabricate and sell pipe to customers serving construction segments such as building construction, road construction, bridge construction, utility construction, marine construction, and oilfield construction just to name a few"  if you'd like i'll go more in depth but i kind of want to go to bed


also OHNOES DERES PIPE IN MY FOUNDATION HOLDIN MY HOUSE/BUILDING/BRIDGE/ETC UP !


http://www.southlandpipe.net/Steel_Pipe/pipe_piling.html


Actually i think i'll continue a little more..

a lil wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_steel

"# A53 - structural pipe and tubing
# A500 - structural pipe and tubing
# A501 - structural pipe and tubing"

under Carbon steels.. whats that.. structural pipe? doesnt exist right.. not like there is an ASTM code and grade for them or anything
also under alloys

"A618 - structural pipe and tubing"
Do i need to continue even more or are we good here?

[wilderXJ]

Dont talk about things you dont know..  Pipe is used in structural building all the time

Ok Board police, I'll talk about what i shall please. Agreed some pipe is strucual I wasn't trying to confuse people. the Schd 40 PIPE that you get at the hardware store for gas lines and such is not for stucutre!  Thats my point.
and if u want to use the internet to quote things, here, check this out, just to stir it up
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=862350

But i dont know anything i only have 20 post

[TacoRunner]

I personally, have never seen a pro racer's vehicle use pipe. I believe there is a reason for it. Reasons like, pipe does not have as high of yield as DOM tubing. NASCAR does not use pipe, SCORE does not use pipe. If I took my truck to a shop and they bent me a cage with an exhaust bender, a pipe bender or used pipe on my cage or even HREW, I would throw freakin' fit. I'd be up their butt so far I'd tickle the back of his throat. No way in hell I'd pay for that crap.

[yota4x4sc]

I personally, have never seen a pro racer's vehicle use pipe. I believe there is a reason for it. Reasons like, pipe does not have as high of yield as DOM tubing. NASCAR does not use pipe, SCORE does not use pipe. If I took my truck to a shop and they bent me a cage with an exhaust bender, a pipe bender or used pipe on my cage or even HREW, I would throw freakin' fit. I'd be up their butt so far I'd tickle the back of his throat. No way in hell I'd pay for that crap.

haha i race dirt track cars so i know the rules, haha u should read the rules http://oceanspeedway.com/Uploads/AmericanStockRules.pdf
Roll cage material must be 1 3/4"o.d. round mild steel tubing by .095" minimum wall thickness or 1 3/4" o.d. black iron pipe by .125" wall thickness.
pipe is used on nascars.. only if u want to 

[IronClad]

haha i race dirt track cars so i know the rules, haha u should read the rules http://oceanspeedway.com/Uploads/AmericanStockRules.pdf
Roll cage material must be 1 3/4"o.d. round mild steel tubing by .095" minimum wall thickness or 1 3/4" o.d. black iron pipe by .125" wall thickness.
pipe is used on nascars.. only if u want to 

lol i love it

[TacoRunner]

Wow, I stand corrected, so you can use it but no ones does because it takes thicker tube to do the same work.


IronClad,  .

[IronClad]

Wow, I stand corrected, so you can use it but no ones does because its more weight.


IronClad,  .

Mad?

[TacoRunner]

At being correct, no. Especially when its with proof and not hear say.

What I dislike are things like this

Dont talk about things you dont know..  Pipe is used in structural building all the time

But then you just leave it at that and dont go further, it makes you sould like an jerk even it you aren't. Educate please.

[IronClad]

Educate people on this forum ? lol thats great

[86bobbedtoy]

man all the pissey people on here,
fu$k youd think there on there periods.

yall make me laugh.
and who's to say whats right or wrong on someone else's rig?

I have used black gas pipe for shock hoops, and rear shock mounts..

its strong enough for that and can be bought on a sunday.
babble on

[IronClad]

man all the pissey people on here,
fu$k youd think there on there periods.

yall make me laugh.
and who's to say whats right or wrong on someone else's rig?

I have used black gas pipe for shock hoops, and rear shock mounts..

its strong enough for that and can be bought on a sunday.
babble on

Yeep the cage/exo on my next rig is going to be all schd 40!

[86bobbedtoy]

Im planing on a wakeboard tower for my boat sometime this winter, im thinking exhaust tubing 2"

ill have king do the bends tho

[IronClad]

2" will be more than enough.  glen will do ya right he does good work

[86bobbedtoy]

yeah he bent the rear tube on my toy,
louie is helpin down at precision now,
he would prob do it for free but glen does such awesome work.

Im actually thinking about a hydraulic exhaust bender for myself
they are really handy

[IronClad]

yeah glen gets all my exhaust work.. i cant wait for my new rig so i can get him to do it lol.  and yeah they are really handy for random stuff. im bout to buy a HF bender just to have for random stuff haha

[86bobbedtoy]

yeah my HF benders seals went out, after 3 years of abuse
I used it as a vise alot, lol

I need to get another.
I need some slight bends in my long arm tubes.
Ill check the site right know, for prices
ever put lower seals in one?