Author Topic: SAS or IFS Lift? (Read 7248 times)

Hammerhead · « **Reply #30 on:** Apr 12, 2008, 10:49:32 PM »

A lunchbox locker in the rear is the best bang for the buck mod you can do to your rig...

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #31 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 04:42:54 PM »

With the Add-a-leaf would I need new shocks?

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #32 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 05:18:18 PM »

It would depend on what shocks you currently have, if they are stock type then you may need new shocks. If they are an aftermarket like Rancho or the like they may be ok.

solar86yota · « **Reply #33 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 06:06:16 PM »

Probably because alot of people go with detroits, at least where i'm from. However, many people have recommended aussie lockers to me, including people who run other lockers. One, because they are really tough for the price, and two, they are fairly easy to install. Three, this is one of the best things that you can do to an ifs rig to improve traction for so little money.

THK Matt · « **Reply #34 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 06:07:49 PM »

id go aussie over anything. my opinion

solar86yota · « **Reply #35 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 06:09:56 PM »

And on the shock thing with adds, you can run the stock shocks with add a leafs and a cranked torsion bar but it wil be a bit stiff. Many major shock brands sell shocks for small (1-2") lifts this is probably the best way to go if you have the money.

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #36 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 09:47:15 PM »

Thats cool, but with the locker should i go with electric or air? Which one is best all around?

solar86yota · « **Reply #37 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 09:51:07 PM »

Hmmm. I would say electric but.....you don't have to have either! Aussies, detroits, powertracs don't require either! Very strange question.

solar86yota · « **Reply #38 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 09:52:34 PM »

Go air and you have to get a tank/compressor.=more money

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #39 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 09:53:01 PM »

Quote from: VacaWheeler on Apr 13, 2008, 09:47:15 PM

Thats cool, but with the locker should i go with electric or air? Which one is best all around?

Now you are talking WAY more $$ than an aussie, and much harder to install than an aussie. I have used niether, but someone who has will probably chime in.

solar86yota · « **Reply #40 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 09:55:34 PM »

Yeah, I'm not sure why you brought up air/electric lockers if you are going to do a budget build!!!

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #41 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 10:07:14 PM »

I'm pretty new to all of this, so I thought that lockers were either are or electric

. Sorry for the really stupid questions, I just don't know that much

. Thats why I'm here, so please forgive the stupidity.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #42 on:** Apr 13, 2008, 11:04:11 PM »

Go with an electric locker

220v.

All_Set · « **Reply #43 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 08:05:28 AM »

Get an Ethan Locker.

Go wheel. When you lose traction, have a big guy (Ethan in my case) jump up and down in the back of the bed over the wheel that is free spinning. Insta Locker, much cheaper.

88_Pathy · « **Reply #44 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 08:13:59 AM »

Ha ha that is funny. Those work good too.

Hammerhead · « **Reply #45 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:31:13 AM »

After using a variety of lockers I'd say get an aussie for a budget build or get an ARB for the top of the line. Everyone always says "Yeah, but then you have to get a compressor and tank and blah, blah ,blah...". So. Everyone wants OBA anyway so...

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #46 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 03:45:57 PM »

For now I'm just going with the Aussie locker, adjusting the torsion bar, and the add-a-leafs. Than I'll save up for therocksliders. But you can keep put up your opinions and I'll still listen and make changes

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #47 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 04:39:12 PM »

i edited your poll to include torsion tweak and ad a leaf

which was my vote

i would stay with some 31's -33's and the aussie you'll be going anywhere you need to be, with good skills and 33's you could run the con

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #48 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 04:45:36 PM »

Thats Cool

93tonkatoy · « **Reply #49 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 05:17:27 PM »

The IFS lift will only gain tire clearance. They are really too expensive for what you actually get. I have looked and priced them for a few years, and never felt the gain was worth the cost. But, I'm now running one because I got a DEAL on one that was removed from a truck that a solid axle was put under (haul it away!

) The reason I am running it is that I can spread out the cost of the truck mods, and not lose the use of the truck for extended periods. I got gears a few months ago, larger tires last month, and now can save up for rear springs and the sas kit (already have my front solid axle), all while still being able to drive. If you can find a complete lift cheap (check it all over very good, and if it comes from a sas, see if you can get the full front end: spare parts are good to have), I'd say go for it. If not, just twist the t-bars and add-a-leaf.

Another suggestion no one has mentioned would be to find another toy rear spring pack and add one of the longer leaves to your pack from it. It will increase the spring rate, but not as much as a regular AAL. AALs are very stiff to give the ride height, they can also lead to spring warping, depending on the length of the added leaf.

Very few mods are really cheap, but if you put enough thought into it, you'll save money in the long run.

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #50 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 08:48:48 PM »

Someone I was just talking to said I could put blocks in the rear instead of the AAL. That way it wouldn't be so stiff, and I could just have my Gradfather make one of those if they're hard to find. I was also thinking about buying a stock t-bar just in case mine breaks. So if anyone has one that would fit an 86 Pickup, I'll in the market when I have some money. It sucks that every revels around money!!!!!!!

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #51 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:04:00 PM »

I would stay away from blocks. they can cause axle wrap, and can make the ride just as stiff as an add-a-leaf. They can also break, and shoot out from between the axle and spring (bad) . They also create a weird twising force on the rear axle, by moving the axle away from the spring.

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #52 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:09:37 PM »

May sound stupid and I'm probably wrong but I don't think I have springs

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #53 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:10:37 PM »

Once again please forgive the stupidity

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #54 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:11:21 PM »

Quote from: BLACKDOG on Apr 14, 2008, 09:04:00 PM

I would stay away from blocks. they WILL cause axle wrap, and can make the ride just as stiff as an add-a-leaf. They can also break, and shoot out from between the axle and spring (bad) . They also create a weird twising force on the rear axle, by moving the axle away from the spring.

I hate it when people do what I just did...but, I fixed it for you. Sorry...but, nothing good ever comes from using lift blocks!

Wheel the truck stock, save your money...then send it all to Marlin for a SAS kit when you can wheel the snot out of it.

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #55 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:12:55 PM »

Quote from: VacaWheeler on Apr 14, 2008, 09:09:37 PM

May sound stupid and I'm probably wrong but I don't think I have springs

You've got leaf springs in the rear and torsion bars on the front. I didn't read the whole thread...is there a picture?

NorCalWheeler · « **Reply #56 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:16:23 PM »

http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/Zero%20Rates.htm Would this work to left the rear. and I'm sorry for asking stupid ?'s I just don't know to much and this is my only source of info really.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #57 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:21:56 PM »

It would, and if you went with blocks, it would probably be your best option, but I'd still stay away from blocks. If you really want to mess around some, you could find some old springs, and start mixing and matching the leafs. Its a little more involved, but it could be a good option for you. Junkyards always have springs that you could buy and play with.

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #58 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:23:42 PM »

Quote from: VacaWheeler on Apr 14, 2008, 09:16:23 PM

http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/Zero%20Rates.htm Would this work to left the rear. and I'm sorry for asking stupid ?'s I just don't know to much and this is my only source of info really.

First of all...quit apologizing! It's really not necessary. I can pretty much guarantee no one came out of their momma knowing much about anything except eating and crapping.

Those are really for moving an axle forward or aft...they will, after a fashion, act as (short) lift blocks. Someone else said you'd be surprised how far you can go with a stock truck...it's true. Just put in an Aussie and let everything else slide for a while.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #59 on:** Apr 14, 2008, 09:30:15 PM »

Quote from: abnormaltoy on Apr 14, 2008, 09:23:42 PM

Someone else said you'd be surprised how far you can go with a stock truck...it's true. Just put in an Aussie and let everything else slide for a while.


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