Author Topic: 22R rebuild need power Sugestions? Turbo? (Read 5758 times)

itsyodatime · « **on:** Mar 29, 2008, 12:07:02 AM »

I am doing a rebuild on a 22r wut are the easiest ways to make power while i have it torn down. Its carb now. I'd like to try a turbo if its not to much of a pain.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 12:12:15 AM »

turbo is too much work... either do an engine swap or jsut rebuild it using quality parts, and install a cam... once it is together, do some sort of intake and exhuast... best bang for the buck, and most performance without going into major work... also look into doing a 20r head if it is an early 22r

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 12:23:32 AM »

Turbos aren't really all that difficult, it's the tuning that is. If you're bent on using the 22R, do an FI swap. If not, a 4.3 is an effective alternative.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 09:11:38 AM »

theres alot you can do but we gotta know what year 22R you have

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=40261.0

94MtnYote · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 11:45:42 AM »

Can't believe no one mentioned race fuel and 100 shot of nitrous!

kneedownnate · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 04:58:59 PM »

Best mod you can do is search the umpteen other threads about this same subject

itsyodatime · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 10:12:40 PM »

It is a post march 82 goin in an 84. What kind of power would I be lookin at with an FI swap and how do these motors respond to porting. Parts Suggestions?

94MtnYote · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 29, 2008, 10:56:23 PM »

efi swap might net you 20 hp

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 02:18:34 AM »

You can't put EFI on an engine older than '84, if I remember right, because the manifold won't bolt to the head. However, if you do, you'll only gain 20 HP and 10- 15 ft lbs or so, but more importantly, you gain economy and drivability. No more carb giving you

on an incline or in cold/ damp weather.

Porting works well, from what I 've heard, as most of the power is hidden in the head. If you can swing it, get yourself an Engine Builder RV head, 261 cam and Thorley headers. I've read good things about this setup and will be installing a fresh 22RE with that stuff into my '81 (along with an FI swap) when I come back from Iraq.

The best mod, as it's already been said, is going to be strengthen your noggin... do a lot of searching and the answers will be found.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 12:31:31 PM »

Quote from: LOL @ IFS on Mar 30, 2008, 02:18:34 AM

Porting works well, from what I 've heard, as most of the power is hidden in the head. If you can swing it,

porting works very nice, but with your 82 block i would suggest a 20R head and intake, weber 3236 carb and a LCEngineering .440 lift cam

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get yourself an Engine Builder RV head, 261 cam and Thorley headers. I've read good things about this setup and will be installing a fresh 22RE with that stuff into my '81 (along with an FI swap) when I come back from Iraq.

The best mod, as it's already been said, is going to be strengthen your noggin... do a lot of searching and the answers will be found.

thorley headers are very good

Engine builder is great for parts but the cams are very mild,

94MtnYote · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 01:06:44 PM »

A 260 grind is considered a RV cam correct?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 01:37:30 PM »

Quote from: toyoduh! on Mar 30, 2008, 01:06:44 PM

A 260 grind is considered a RV cam correct?

beats me, beside who has a RV ?? i have a 4x4 truck

94MtnYote · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 02:00:32 PM »

you tellin me you never wheeled a dolphin? thats a damn shame....

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 02:22:59 PM »

Quote from: toyoduh! on Mar 30, 2008, 02:00:32 PM

you tellin me you never wheeled a dolphin? thats a damn shame....

nope, but i always wanted to see one on rockwells

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 02:41:00 AM »

Quote from: toyoduh! on Mar 30, 2008, 01:06:44 PM

A 260 grind is considered a RV cam correct?

www.engnbldr.com has the "RV" head, which is basically a stock head with 1mm oversized SS valves with thinner stems. The 261° cam they have is called a "crawler" cam. The words in quotes are Engine Builder's trade names for those products, and I have no idea if they came out of an RV or a crawler. I'm estimating that with that head, cam, the 2.25" Thorley headers and some tuning using my WB O2, my 22RE will be good for a realistic 150 HP and 180 ft lbs of torque and retain stock reliability and drivability.

94MtnYote · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 08:51:51 AM »

Sounds very nice, I guess for a 22re 260* is as far as one should go for a 22re to pass emissions and keep the computer happy.

RN37DD · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 09:39:54 AM »

2x on the 440 lift cam from LCE. I'm running a 260 dur cam and it's fine but it doesn't have the kick the crane cam i was running before. it had a 440/435 split lift and would get ya sideways when it came on the pipe. it also passed smog fine. LCE has a 440 cam that's made for efi. I'd sure try it if i went EFI.

itsyodatime · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 08:40:25 PM »

This all sounds pretty good. But I am pretty sure the efi swap wont work on that motor so that oneis out. I have already rebuilt the head so im probably stickin with that. But i will go with a good RV cam, intake man., header, and I had the rotating assembly balanced so the motor should last and be a pretty smooth wrapper. thanks guys. I probably should have just wandered this site rather than starting a discussion i just started on this site.

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 01, 2008, 05:04:46 AM »

Might want to think about My-T-FI, then... Basically, it uses VW mechanical fuel injection parts to fuel your carb'd engine. It's a bolt on affair. Google My-T-FI.

RN37DD · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 01, 2008, 08:37:14 AM »

i found my-t-fi system interesting but couldn't find information on people who have really used it on a Toyota. i know the k-jetronic fuel injection was used on quite a few cars in the mid 80's. some were even turbocharged. i may try it some day just to see how it really works.

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 01, 2008, 11:46:08 PM »

There's quite a few people using the My-T-FI setup on 22R's swapped into Suzukis with good results... I'd imagine the performance would be similar to a 22R in a Toyota.

BTW- ever notice how the Suzuki guys swap Toyota engines, trannies, t-cases and axles into their Suzukis? Why not just buy a Toyota from the get go? lol...

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 04, 2008, 06:04:56 PM »

Quote from: itsyodatime on Mar 31, 2008, 08:40:25 PM

This all sounds pretty good. But I am pretty sure the efi swap wont work on that motor so that oneis out. I have already rebuilt the head so im probably stickin with that. But i will go with a good RV cam, intake man., header, and I had the rotating assembly balanced so the motor should last and be a pretty smooth wrapper. thanks guys. I probably should have just wandered this site rather than starting a discussion i just started on this site.

i thought you wanted some power

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