Author Topic: other carbs besides webers for a 22r? (Read 9256 times)

mtsnow29 · « **on:** Mar 27, 2008, 06:25:19 PM »

i've got a weber right now and i really want a different carb cause mine is gettin to that point!

any suggestions and engine pics?

solar86yota · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 06:56:30 PM »

No pics but Mikuni makes some kickbutt carbs! I had one on my 75 Yamaha and it ran like a top. I'm sure you could also find a holley or another model aisin that would work. I think LC Engineering has a large selection of Carbs for 22rs, you could at least get an idea of whats out there.

REG535 · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 07:32:22 PM »

You can try Mikuni but not sure where u can get them plus they are expensive.
numbers are:

Stock 20R Aisan 190 cfm
Stock 22R Aisan 326 cfm
Weber 32/36 325 cfm
Weber Dual 38 390 cfm (Downdraft)
Weber Dual 40 405 cfm (Downdraft)
Dual Mikuni 40 PHH 724 cfm (181 cfm per tube)
Dual Mikuni 44 PHH 844 cfm (211 cfm per tube)

jimbo74 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 07:38:47 PM »

what about side draft? they arent cheap but they look cool

mtsnow29 · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:18:59 PM »

i'll try and research them. i thought edelbrock may have made one but called them today and thats a no go.
maybe holly. just want to try something new

jimbo74 · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:20:15 PM »

what is wrong with your weber that you want to change it? some people would trade their first born for a weber

REG535 · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:23:07 PM »

i think holly ones are called Weiand

AR80Toy · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:30:01 PM »

Webers are ok but they will not out last a Stock Aisin Carb. , just my opinion , and I know others will swear up and down that Webers are all that but in my opinion you can not beat the stock Aisin . They may not out perform but they will out last if well maintained !!!!!!

toyotanner · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:32:15 PM »

a stock toyota carb with the emissions plugged off runs like a top on my truck

solar86yota · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM »

Yeah my stock carbs a beast! never had a problem always starts even in 15 below!

REG535 · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 08:50:36 PM »

So just run that then. Are you looking for performance or what? more power?

kneedownnate · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 27, 2008, 10:16:20 PM »

You can get an adapter to run a holley 500cfm 2 bbl, but I agree that you're better off sticking with the stock 22r carb. I personally run a weber 32/36 and do not particularly care for it, especially if you sneeze or lean too close to the door.

OOPS · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 28, 2008, 07:46:30 AM »

Quote from: jimbo74 on Mar 27, 2008, 08:20:15 PM

some people would trade their first born for a weber

While others like a friend swear at them and take them off a throw them in a field behind their house never to be seen or heard from since.

RN37DD · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 28, 2008, 09:57:57 AM »

I'm running a weber 32/36 it runs Strong and even gets better mileage than the stock 20r carb. i wouldn't use another after market carb. if i change it I'll go stock 22r carb, efi or try something really strange like a 2.8 GM fi or vw k-jetronic.

Yoat Goat · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 28, 2008, 09:59:44 PM »

I dont know what it is about the webers but like people said, some absolutely love them and others hate 'em. Im staying with the stocker till I go with EFI in the future if I do... Also Toyotanner, do you have any pics of the vacuum crap plugged? Anyone for that matter... Help...

kneedownnate · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 28, 2008, 10:26:46 PM »

With my 32/36 set up to pass smog I usually got 17mpg, but it ran like poo and coughed and stumbled on the bottom. When I jetted it to run ok I started getting 15mpg, and when I jetted it to run well it dropped to 13. Seriously, it stumbles if you even look at an incline, or think of one for that matter. Tunability and adjustability are there, but I've never had to worry about tuning or adjusting a stock 22r carb.

I never ran with a 20r carb since it came with the weber, so I can't say how it is versus the stock carb.

toyotanner · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 01:49:02 AM »

ill see if i can get a decent pictur of it otherwise you can just un plug 1 at a time while the truck is running and if the hole sucks plug it

David · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 07:46:46 AM »

Interesting thread. I was wanting to rebuild the carb on my 83 pu. Called a local shop to rebuild the stock carb and they want at least $275 to do it if the choke is working, more if not.
Was thinking of a Weber 35/35, new for about $250, but after reading this thread I don't know if that is the way to go. Suggestions?

kneedownnate · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 09:46:56 AM »

Convert to efi

REG535 · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 10:27:22 AM »

275 wow, maybe u can rebuild it yourself for less? or get another from a friend or something

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 30, 2008, 12:39:52 PM »

Quote from: AR80Toy on Mar 27, 2008, 08:30:01 PM

Webers are ok but they will not out last a Stock Aisin Carb. , just my opinion , and I know others will swear up and down that Webers are all that but in my opinion you can not beat the stock Aisin . They may not out perform but they will out last if well maintained !!!!!!

now how do you know?? you had your weber on your truck for maybe a week

and you never did have it jetted to match your 20R

Quote from: kneedownnate on Mar 27, 2008, 10:16:20 PM

You can get an adapter to run a holley 500cfm 2 bbl, but I agree that you're better off sticking with the stock 22r carb. I personally run a weber 32/36 and do not particularly care for it, especially if you sneeze or lean too close to the door.

500cfm on a 22R

i hope its got a stage 5 head and cam on it

ive had my weber for about 5 years i guess, had some issues when i bored the engine to .060 but after installing some bigger fuel jets it runs perfectly

in fact Insane06 commented on how smoothly it idled up after warming up from a cold start

carbs must be tuned, i dont know how to tune a aisin carb but i DO know how to tune a weber

RN37DD · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 11:25:45 AM »

yeah i think tuning is where the weber shines. any time you do major changes to an engine cam, bore, exhaust and even the intake, the carburetor is going to need to be tuned to get the best performance. trying to get it all out of a stock aisin would probably be a nightmare. and the high performance aisin's are big dollar.

Yoat Goat · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 02:33:58 PM »

bmxicanrivera · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 04:31:26 PM »

My truck when I bought it came with a holley 2bl off of an old Ford, and somehow it workd great. As for the Webers, I have heard some people swear by them and others swear at them.

x factor · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 31, 2008, 06:16:22 PM »

With some slight modifications to the intake I have been running a Rochester 2bbl without problems. I did have to weld up and redrill 2 of the mounting holes and bore the intake out for the larger butterflys. This was definately not a bolt on mod but it has worked very well and rebuild kits for it are cheap.

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