Topic: horse power yota junkies!!!!!

[toyotanner]

79coyotefrg

[Thomas P]

hey cody still got that rear axle housing???

[yota_krawler [OP]]

ya I should have showed them to you. I have 2 ifs and 1 85-

[jrock]

Again, does anyone have any pictures of the cut manifold with custom collector?

[yota_krawler [OP]]

any more tricks to sqeeze just a bit more power outta these babies?

[nhyota603]

my buddy in his 1st gen had his 22r hiting 7500 and all its got is a pipe

[BUDDERS]

Do yourself a favor and stick with the factory flywheel.  I read somewhere that they are about 30lbs and this is good for the tourque you need.  I made the mistake of changing mine out to a 9 lb LCE flywheel on my 87 2wd (thinking lighter must be better)  and now that thing sucks climbing hills.  I also have a ceramic clutch and it sucks trying to take off up a hill from a full stop.  I have to rev the motor up, dump the clutch and floor it while praying it doesn't stall.  The centrifugal weight of a flywheel helps keep the crank spinning even when other things are trying to slow it down (i.e. a hill or big tires) - the heavier flywheel, the better IMO - unless you are racing a stripped down 2wd truck or celica on the flat.

I've done a lot of work to that toy and I think the one trick that most people don't know about is changing out the AFM to a larger bore.  This should only be done after taking care of the engine breathing better and getting a hotter spark.  I used a AFM out of a 7mge supra and just swapped the electronics over to the 4 cylinder circuit board from your stock AFM so it will work.  It takes a lot of patience and a little luck to get the clock spring just right but in the end, will look stock, so it will fool a smog tech.  You will need the correct adapter and a DOWNEY type intake with a big cone filter - I used DOWNEY's intake setup.  Also don't do this untill you have upgraded your fuel system (bigger injectors and a higher flow fuel pump) or your engine will ping like crazy and we all know that isn't good (lean condition).

[79coyotefrg]

any more tricks to sqeeze just a bit more power outta these babies?

install a 20R distributor,  you will be amazed  at the difference

[79coyotefrg]

my buddy in his 1st gen had his 22r hiting 7500 and all its got is a pipe

i didnt say  sitting at a light  with it in neutral

[79coyotefrg]

Do yourself a favor and stick with the factory flywheel.  I read somewhere that they are about 30lbs and this is good for the tourque you need.

  AMEN brother ive been trying to tell people that for years

Also don't do this untill you have upgraded your fuel system (bigger injectors and a higher flow fuel pump) or your engine will ping like crazy and we all know that isn't good (lean condition).

for  a 22RE  get  22RTE injectors,  the RE  has 200cfm  injectors

the RTE has 250  cfm  injectors,  as far as i know the plug  is exactly the same

[BUDDERS]

I can't remember what cfm my injectors are  (I used to have a pretty extensive cheat sheet on this but lost it)  but I got them out of the same supra I found the bigger diameter air flow meter in.  It had a 7mge in it.

[RN37DD]

any favorite year for the best 20r distributor? I'm running a 20r distributor, but it's been rebuilt and know knows what's been fooled around with it. my motor screams    but i might pick up another distributor. i like to find stock stuff and see how it works.

install a 20R distributor,  you will be amazed  at the difference

[*ROKTOY*]

 

[yota_krawler [OP]]

so put a 20r distributor on a 22r or 22re? I have a 22r not RE, so i am tryin to come up with ways to squeeze some more power outta it but keep it reliable. I just got a smog done so i can change it and not have to worry for 2years!

[miketlane]

delta cam can grind a "comp extream energy 4x4" for $60. ran mine for 80,000 miles and was very happy. good flow exhaust system is good and maybe a header but they are more work then there worth. cheap ones will warp and blow gaskets allot and more if you off road in water or mud. electric fans= 20hp. if you do the heads do the bottom end too. a hone rings and bearings are worth the cost so you can balance it. balancing is like striping off 500lbs of resistance. balance,a port-polish and cam are the biggest HP gains for the $. good flow at both ends are next. the rest is little 5-20 gains. leave the stock fly wheel and pulleys unless you want to run nascar.  i did all the work and the cost of parts and machine work was $600. it was a pulling SOB for a 4cyl. running a 400hp v8 now

[Yoat Goat]

Whats the difference between a 22R dist. and a 20R dist?

[79coyotefrg]

Whats the difference between a 22R dist. and a 20R dist?

the  trigger star,  22R  comes to a sharp point,  20R  has a  much wider  and longer spark

[Thomas P]

but can you run em on a 22re?

[toyotanner]

delta cam can grind a "comp extream energy 4x4" for $60. ran mine for 80,000 miles and was very happy. good flow exhaust system is good and maybe a header but they are more work then there worth. cheap ones will warp and blow gaskets allot and more if you off road in water or mud. electric fans= 20hp. if you do the heads do the bottom end too. a hone rings and bearings are worth the cost so you can balance it. balancing is like striping off 500lbs of resistance. balance,a port-polish and cam are the biggest HP gains for the $. good flow at both ends are next. the rest is little 5-20 gains. leave the stock fly wheel and pulleys unless you want to run nascar.  i did all the work and the cost of parts and machine work was $600. it was a pulling SOB for a 4cyl. running a 400hp v8 now

you can get 20hp by taking off your clutch fan and running a electric one

[88_Pathy]

Yeah right.

[RN37DD]

i think the best numbers for a 22r are around 5 to 11 percent. but 5 to 10 hp is still good if you can get a fan for 100 bucks or under. plus the quicker you can get your motor up to temp the better your mpg.

[94MtnYote]

 Balanced crank?
I talked to a local machine shop and they said balancing the crank is unnecessary unless you're building a bigger engine, v 6 or an 8. ?  I guess balancing rods and pistons is good enough?

[RN37DD]

just depends on what your building. to balance right you do the pistons, rods, crank all together. all rotating parts. very expensive. most 22r don't see over 4500 for very long under load. if you build a motor that you plan to keep at the 5000-6500 range for an extended time then maybe. then next motor i do I'll use a zero balanced crank and do the rods and pistons myself. a good stock forged Toyota crank is pretty good as it is. my 

[Yoat Goat]

79coyotefrg you know your toyota stuff!!!!! Thanks for answering my question. This thread rocks!

[toyotanner]

how does an electric fan add horsepower though? is it just the resistance of the clutch fan?

[Thomas P]

whenever you free up rotating mass you free up horsepower, i think that 20 hp is an exaggeration, but I can tell you that it definately DOES free up some power

[jrock]

Anyone say NOS?

[yota_krawler [OP]]

This thread rocks!

 

oh and to all who has put in their suggestions!

[Yoat Goat]

 

[79coyotefrg]

but can you run em on a 22re?

i think you could,  but i am sure  you could  swap the star things themselves    i dont have a RE  to try it on

79coyotefrg you know your toyota stuff!!!!! Thanks for answering my question. This thread rocks!

Balanced crank?
I talked to a local machine shop and they said balancing the crank is unnecessary unless you're building a bigger engine, v 6 or an 8. ?  I guess balancing rods and pistons is good enough?

yes  balancing the  engine frees  up drag, there by building power,   and yes  my  engine  was  fully balanced,  and i think i was only charged $150  for the balancing process