need help cant turn!!! **PICS**

Started by ghetto_wheeler, December 11, 2007, 02:22:50 PM

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ghetto_wheeler

here is the thing it all worked fine tell i decided to go mess around yesterday i got up on this rock and came down a little to hard (could not find the brake) after it would not turn to the right i dont have money for highsteer im looking for a cheap fix here is two pictures of were its hitting  those tabs are stoping it. can i cut the tabs on each side off? :dunno:
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ghetto_wheeler

pics are small sorry but there is a tab on either side also here is the stearing set up i got it looks like a sleve witch would fix my problem also but i cant get it to move
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88_Pathy

Cant see a thing with those tiny pics. Sorry

79coyotefrg

and running stock steering  with over 3 inches of lift  is NUTS

you probably bent/broke your j arm
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CTENG in KS

Broke the box right off the mount, eh?

Need better pics to help you solve the issue...
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ghetto_wheeler

every thing looks still intact ill try and get some better pics can i cut the tabs of the side of the box i mean ill be gettin highsteer within a month or so but i wanna go play in the snow
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CTENG in KS

Here is a pic of a box...draw on it to show what is happening, then look all around the box and the bracket cause something in likely cracked.
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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ghetto_wheeler

I'm not to computer smart so cant draw but i can explain better when wheels are straight the passenger side points in just a hair and when i try and turn right the arm hits the tab on the right but does not hit the one one the left when the arm hits the tab I'm turned 1/4 percent but it has no probelm turning left
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ghetto_wheeler

also my arm sits a hair to the right and not in the center
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ghetto_wheeler

i have this sleve that looks ajustable but cant figure out how mabe rust or .... is it even
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ghetto_wheeler

thanks so much for helping and my lack of help with the pics  :beerchug:
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CTENG in KS

Either the box, the bracket, or the bolts have broken and the whole deal has shifted.  Look on the inside of the frame...has a bolt started to pull through or dent the frame inwards?  Grab the box and shove on it different ways, see if you can see any cracks open in the castings.
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93tonkatoy

have someone else sit in the truck, and turn the steering both ways while you look at the box. This will show you if something is broken, or bolts pulling thru, or if there is something binding INSIDE the steering box.
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ghetto_wheeler

just did that and the colom was rubbing on the fender wall i popped hood and the colom is like mushroomed were it meets the box i know the pics are small but could this be it
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ghetto_wheeler

i got photoshp starter addition 3.0 anyone know how to resize
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YotaJosh

Sounds like your shaft "misindexed" for lack of better term.

Pull the pitman arm, count the number of turns lock to lock, and put the steering wheel dead in the middle. Reinstall the pitman arm evenly between the stops on the steering box. Test it, and repeat as needed to fine tune it.

A similar thing happened to my push-pull box, and I could barely turn left. I looked and the box ran out of turns before the arm hit the stops.

Worst case, you need another steering box.
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YotaJosh

Quote from: ghetto_wheeler on December 11, 2007, 05:04:07 PM
i got photoshp starter addition 3.0 anyone know how to resize

Don't now about that, but you could try some of the simple and free online photo editors.

http://picnik.com/ or http://fotoflexer.com/ are good starting points.
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ghetto_wheeler

1992 toy single cab built very little highsteer on 39.5s 

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ghetto_wheeler

put some glases on and look close i have been trying to resize for 3 hrs
1992 toy single cab built very little highsteer on 39.5s 

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ghetto_wheeler

1992 toy single cab built very little highsteer on 39.5s 

39.5 irocs for sale or trade...pm me

CTENG in KS

Do you have original copies of the pictures...my email is under my avatar...the little envelope.
Send them to me.  I think the "mushroom" you are talking about is the mating flange, it is supposed to be like that.


These small ones don't blow up to good.
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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DanS

X 2, resized for 20min and still can't quite see details.
Wow, been looking at my 4Runner rust away too long, need some inspiration and here I will find it...!

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CTENG in KS

It isn't the shaft or anything...I guarantee he either cracked the casting of the housing/bracket, or damaged the frame.  Somehow the box has twisted in relation to the frame.
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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ghetto_wheeler

sorry guess it aint that kc came over (toyocrawler) and he said i just need to take the arm of and align it back to the middle cant find no cracks or bents or anything out of the normal
1992 toy single cab built very little highsteer on 39.5s 

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DanS

Holy  :pokinit: that was one nasty hit, sorry I couldn't be of help.
Good luck in your repairs, DanS
Wow, been looking at my 4Runner rust away too long, need some inspiration and here I will find it...!

85 Toyota 4Runner, solid axle, 22Re, original paint and graphics and not a straight panel to be found!

ghetto_wheeler

does that sound right? i kinda fell of a rock and now its off? did it move
1992 toy single cab built very little highsteer on 39.5s 

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CTENG in KS

IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

4Runner: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=4580.0
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mudmaster

That drop arm doesn't look right. I don't think it should be angled like that  :dunno:
Time to go wheelin!

79coyotefrg

its not supposed to be,  looks like he has 5 or 6 inches  of lift  and   the  stock steering just  wont work  with that much lift

i also wonder why his  steering shaft is rubbing the body  :headscratch:
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fordh8r

Quote from: mudmaster on December 12, 2007, 08:09:05 AM
That drop arm doesn't look right. I don't think it should be angled like that  :dunno:
Quote from: 79coyotefrg on December 12, 2007, 08:48:11 AM
its not supposed to be,  looks like he has 5 or 6 inches  of lift  and   the  stock steering just  wont work  with that much lift

i also wonder why his  steering shaft is rubbing the body  :headscratch:
I'm with mudmaster...My link was adjusted longer than that one with a similar amount of lift. That's why it hits one stop and not the other, near the box. If you cut off the stops at the box it won't change much since the stops on the axle should contact the stops on the knuckle before contacting the stops at the box.

  I think the body shifted to the right, Glen.  :psss:   Loose body mounts or a good hard hit when wheeling might do this... :disturbed: