Author Topic: Is this normal? Plus knuckle rebuild questions. (Read 13965 times)

Volcom · « **Reply #30 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 08:39:29 AM »

Quote from: KDXSR5 on Sep 13, 2007, 09:08:55 PM

OK. Driver's side is all torn apart, painted, and ready to be rebuilt. But I have a small problem. When I took my hub apart to paint it and put new grease in it, I lost a piece. This was the first time that I had torn a Toyota hub apart, so I didn't know that there was a small spring with a ball on the end of it inside the red knob. Well, I found the spring, but I can't findthe little ball. Is this ball really all that important?? Does anyone know what I am even talking about? If I do need it, can I get it from Toyota? Or will I have to go to a junkyard and buy a whole hub just for the little tiny ball that may not even be in there? Also, I was missing one of the cone washers for some reason. Where can a replacement cone washer be sourced from? Toyota? Please help!

Thanks

I did the same exact thing
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=14334.180

See post 207. I ended up taking the other hub apart, snagging the ball bearing and headed to a local bearing shop. They had something similar in size, I bought 10 of them for $0.25 and it worked perfect. I don't remember the size but it's small.

DTB · « **Reply #31 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 02:58:12 PM »

Quote from: KDXSR5 on Sep 13, 2007, 09:08:55 PM

OK. Driver's side is all torn apart, painted, and ready to be rebuilt. But I have a small problem. When I took my hub apart to paint it and put new grease in it, I lost a piece. This was the first time that I had torn a Toyota hub apart, so I didn't know that there was a small spring with a ball on the end of it inside the red knob. Well, I found the spring, but I can't findthe little ball. Is this ball really all that important?? Does anyone know what I am even talking about? If I do need it, can I get it from Toyota? Or will I have to go to a junkyard and buy a whole hub just for the little tiny ball that may not even be in there? Also, I was missing one of the cone washers for some reason. Where can a replacement cone washer be sourced from? Toyota? Please help!

Thanks

go to a bike shop...they should have a selection of balls that you can use....take the one from the opposite side hub to match it up

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #32 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 05:48:48 PM »

Is it really necessary though?

DTB · « **Reply #33 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 05:57:07 PM »

Quote from: KDXSR5 on Sep 14, 2007, 05:48:48 PM

Is it really necessary though?

YES..it keeps your hubs locked....yes, lol that tiny little ball keeps your truck in 4wd

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #34 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 07:04:03 PM »

Arms are not bent and the springs are reversed arched from the factory, they came that way. Though if they are originals they'd be a little bit more arched than when they were new. If anything has changed it would be the steering rod, that is usually where something bends. Even a little bend will make it pull but sometimes when you really bend one it'll look like this.

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #35 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 07:50:03 PM »

OUCH!!! I bet that made it a little toed in. I guess that little ball is very important then. Well I guess I will look in my parts washer (a.k.a. coffee can w/ brake cleaner), and see if i can find it. If it isn't there I will use a giant magnet to see if i can pick it up off of the driveway. The problem is that we have been extending our driveway right next to my truck, so if it isn't in the part washer, I probably won't find it. Thanks for the info!

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #36 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 07:55:04 PM »

Yeah it was pretty pigeon toed at that point, but it was an easy fix. A winch, some well placed lumber, a couple C-clamps, a piece of L-channel and a lot of welding.

DTB · « **Reply #37 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 07:58:07 PM »

the only big rock i can see for miles and rocksurfer hits it head on!

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #38 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 07:59:42 PM »

Quote from: DirToyBoy on Sep 14, 2007, 07:58:07 PM

the only big rock i can see for miles and rocksurfer hits it head on!

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #39 on:** Sep 14, 2007, 11:28:07 PM »

Volcom- I checked out the link, and that is it!!! Also, sweet build thread!

84pickup · « **Reply #40 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 10:28:35 AM »

my springs look about like that. i thought that i needed new ones but i was fine. then i drove into a giant ditch and my passenger side sags a good 2-3" lower than the drivers side. i'm prolly getting some springs from Downey or Allpro.

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #41 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 12:03:53 PM »

How the hell does one get a birfield apart!?!? Do you take the c-clip out before banging on it with a brass punch, or after? I have been working on it for like an hour, and I am very pissed because I can't get it apart, and the FSM is very vague when it comes to getting the two shafts apart. Please help immediately!!!

84pickup · « **Reply #42 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 12:08:37 PM »

i never took mine apart. i cleaned em in solvent and looked at them and they looked fine so i left them. i've had no problems since even after i went in the ditch and screwed up my alignment.

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #43 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 12:20:04 PM »

I can't get all the old grease out and put new grease in without taking it apart. I need to figure out how to get it apart. Help.

DTB · « **Reply #44 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:22:50 PM »

find a tube just larger than the diameter of the birf. Put a rag in the bottom to protect the splines when the shaft drops in the tube. Drop the birf into the tube shaft side down hard and it will come out....you do have a FSM right?

DTB · « **Reply #45 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:34:28 PM »

look on page 598-599 here is another way http://ncttora.com/fsm/1985/1985FSM.pdf

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #46 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:36:46 PM »

Quote from: KDXSR5 on Sep 15, 2007, 12:03:53 PM

How the hell does one get a birfield apart!?!? Do you take the c-clip out before banging on it with a brass punch, or after? I have been working on it for like an hour, and I am very pissed because I can't get it apart, and the FSM is very vague when it comes to getting the two shafts apart. Please help immediately!!!

unless you dropped it in the dirt or see metal pieces in it just use a wad of grease in your hand and pack the birf, to much chance on damage if you remove it completely

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #47 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:41:14 PM »

i have an fsm. it doesn't work the way they say it should. i have been wailing on it for 4 hours. it now has brass pieces all over in it. what do i use to pack it? cv stuff, or the regular grease i have? I am about to say screw it and take it to toyota and have them take it apart. Then I can clean it out, pack it with fresh, new whatever, and put it all back together. do you have a pic of this pipe idea? I don't think i quite understand.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #48 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:45:15 PM »

do you have any pipe that 1 1/2 inch inside ??

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #49 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:46:01 PM »

i could probably locate some

DTB · « **Reply #50 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:47:50 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Sep 15, 2007, 01:36:46 PM

unless you dropped it in the dirt or see metal pieces in it just use a wad of grease in your hand and pack the birf, to much chance on damage if you remove it completely

thats what i did...i just forced some of the old grease out with the new and called it good

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #51 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:51:28 PM »

Quote from: KDXSR5 on Sep 15, 2007, 01:46:01 PM

i could probably locate some

get a piece about 3 feet long, slide it over the inner shaft so it comes up snug against the birf star, then smack the other end of the pipe on the concrete, watch for the falling birf it hurts

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #52 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:53:09 PM »

just dont let the birf hit the ground too hard

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #53 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 01:54:11 PM »

this wont cause any damage? should I move the c-clip up the axle before i do it? I really need to get this thing apart.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #54 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 02:03:36 PM »

you can remove the c clip but you dont have to. that just keeps the birf from going to far onto the axle

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #55 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 02:12:06 PM »

well, my dad just left for a bigger brass punch and to pick up some cv lube stuff. Should i use the cv stuff? or just regular mp grease?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #56 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 02:30:55 PM »

regular hi temp red grease

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #57 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 02:32:53 PM »

i just get it in the little tub its cheaper and has a lid

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #58 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 02:33:59 PM »

i do too.

KDXSR5 · « **Reply #59 on:** Sep 15, 2007, 04:03:41 PM »

Today, kudos go to: DTB and Glen!!!

Thank you both so much! The pipe idea worked perfectly! Now, is there supposed to be a c-clip at the end of the shaft? I am assuming so, because there is a groove. Where can I source this clip? Toyota? NAPA? THANKS!!!!

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