Predator Carb...infos?

Started by CTENG in KS, July 16, 2007, 12:24:57 PM

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CTENG in KS

July 16, 2007, 12:24:57 PM
I snagged a predator carb for a REAL good price, but I don't know much about em.  In any case, the reason it was cheap was cause there is a bolt near the bottom missing...stripped out.  Easy to retap, but I don't know how long the original bolt was.  Anyone got any infos or experience with these can help me out?

Thanks!  :turtle3:
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Hottrod81

#1
July 16, 2007, 12:50:16 PM
I know a predator used on a V8 is primarily for racing.  I don't know much about them for 4cyl. applications.

jimbo74

#2
July 16, 2007, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: Hottrod81 on July 16, 2007, 12:50:16 PM
I know a predator used on a V8 is primarily for racing.  I don't know much about them for 4cyl. applications.


it isnt for a 4cyl, it is for his ss beastmaster with a 460 BB ford :rofl:
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Hottrod81

#3
July 16, 2007, 01:00:04 PM
Quote from: jimbo74 on July 16, 2007, 12:52:47 PM

it isnt for a 4cyl, it is for his ss beastmaster with a 460 BB ford :rofl:

It doesn't say that in his original post now does it.

jimbo74

#4
July 16, 2007, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: Hottrod81 on July 16, 2007, 01:00:04 PM
It doesn't say that in his original post now does it.

dont get all pissed... so what..... thats why it was funny... have you ever seen a predator carb for a 4cyl toyota?

also, as it doesnt say it was for his 460, how were you able to assume it was for a 4cyl?
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Hottrod81

#5
July 16, 2007, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: jimbo74 on July 16, 2007, 01:05:48 PM
dont get all pissed... so what..... thats why it was funny... have you ever seen a predator carb for a 4cyl toyota?

also, as it doesnt say it was for his 460, how were you able to assume it was for a 4cyl?

Are you really as dumb as you sound.  Read my initial post.  It says," I know a predator used on a V8 is primarily for racing.  I don't know much about them for 4cyl.  I acknowledged that I don't know about a 4 cyl. application.

how were you able to assume it was for a 4cyl?

This is a Toyota Forum.  The assumption is there.

Back on topic.

Hottrod81

#6
July 16, 2007, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: CTENG in KS on July 16, 2007, 12:24:57 PM
I snagged a predator carb for a REAL good price, but I don't know much about em.  In any case, the reason it was cheap was cause there is a bolt near the bottom missing...stripped out.  Easy to retap, but I don't know how long the original bolt was.  Anyone got any infos or experience with these can help me out?

Thanks!  :turtle3:


How many CFM is the carb (probably 650-750) and what year 460?  If it is a 460 from the mid 70's to early 80's, I don't think you will like the predator carb.  Those year 460's are detuned from pervious years due to smog issues.  IMO, an edelbrock 600-650 cfm would probably be better.

CTENG in KS

#7
July 16, 2007, 01:55:26 PM
The carb is variable from 390 - 970 CFM...it is a 1979 460 so it is the 7.5 to one compression emmission pig.

Oh, and please can we stick to info and not fighting...thanks!
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YotaJosh

#8
July 16, 2007, 02:29:53 PM
If you don't like that Predator carb, I still have an Edelbrock 600 cfm for sale. Tuning kit and all :greengrin:

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Hottrod81

#9
July 16, 2007, 03:11:09 PM
390 is at the primary.  970 should be max cfm with carb completely open.  That is way too much carb.

CTENG in KS

#10
July 16, 2007, 05:29:42 PM
It was too good price to pass up...I can always clean it up and resell it.
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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Hottrod81

#11
July 16, 2007, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: CTENG in KS on July 16, 2007, 05:29:42 PM
It was too good price to pass up...I can always clean it up and resell it.

Exactly,  Just don't take my thoughts ( I am sure you won't).  I have picked up many things like that and made money.

On a Ford of the year you are talking about, you cannot beat the original Autolite carb.  You might try rebuilding it.

79coyotefrg

#12
July 16, 2007, 06:11:42 PM
his  came with a Holley   so  that sucks,  :down:  the good news is my  identical truck  has  the autolite  carb  :woohoo:
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CTENG in KS

#13
July 16, 2007, 07:33:31 PM
Well aren't you SPECIAL!
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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CTENG in KS

#14
July 18, 2007, 08:37:07 PM
SOme pics to add to the thread...
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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notajeep

#15
July 18, 2007, 08:42:42 PM
Don't these work strictly on the engines demand for air and meter fuel accordingly?
You have a Jeep?  That's cute.... So does Barbi.

CTENG in KS

#16
July 18, 2007, 09:02:58 PM
Yes, but the more I look at it the more I am convinced it can be "detuned" to work more effectively with a lower demand engine such as my stock 460.  They werk on a cam system that allows the engine demand to meter air/fuel up to a certain point, then the linkage forces a "secondary" type reaction that opens everything up full bore.
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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norcalyoter

#17
July 18, 2007, 10:20:24 PM
the place where i get to occasionally work the bosses son has 2 of these things they are extremely simple to work with he says they are not street friendly at all and the idle is going to be pretty high on it but they are no joke he had them set up in a duel carb intake for a bit  :beerchug:

Cheesemaker

#18
July 18, 2007, 10:25:21 PM
What's the bolt hole go to? 


I just went to http://www.predatorcarb.com/performance/carburetor.html  and noticed they got a board there!  That might help out alot!  Also, they have a contact info page!

http://www.predatorcarb.com/parts/carb_v2big.jpg
Looks like it maybe your fuel inlet!
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CTENG in KS

#19
July 19, 2007, 06:18:29 AM
correct...it is stripped out...why i got it so cheap.  easy to retap.  i may try a couple things and see how i can mod this thing.
IFS is best kept at ambient temperature in a pile of scrap in the backyard.  When kept under a functioning vehicle, it tends to greatly diminish said vehicle's offroad ability.     -reklund5

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Hottrod81

#20
July 19, 2007, 07:32:12 AM
Those things are so sweet.  They have now been replaced by the "Demon" name but I think they are the same carbs.
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