Transfer case e-brake (which one is better?)

Started by DTB, June 10, 2007, 04:50:15 PM

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DTB

I'm thinking about purchasing a transfer case mounted e-brake...which is better..All pro or Sky? They are the same price and similar design..just wondering if one is superior over the other





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TurtleTappers91

I have the SKY's and unfortunately, It has been nothing but trouble.
I'd go with AllPro...

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TurtleTappers91

*the return sping was not strong enough? lever would not return? I had to add a big spring.
*the brake wont hold too well on a hill without pulling REALLY hard to set it, maybe as good as the stocker...
*it makes grinding/grating noises
*the disc is really hard to line up if you have a triple drilled flange on the transfer case. the disc is triple drilled too, and maybe im a dork but I had a hell of a time
*It came with kinda crappy instructions.

Now I,m not bashing sky 's in any way, I run lots of their stuff,  and this is just my experience with this product....

TurtleTappers91

Could all be set-up issues and problems with my specific truck too...

fj-rankenstein

I bought the all poo's and for the most part it seems like a good product.... i did have to slot 2 holes because it didnt want to line up with the back of the tcase perfectly... I think, like most of these products they all need just a little bit of tweaking to make them perfect.... for 200 bucks I thought it was a good deal....
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Quote from: TurtleTappers91 on June 10, 2007, 05:45:33 PM
Could all be set-up issues and problems with my specific truck too...

EDIT i just saw the other post nvm. thank you for the responses thusfar
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TurtleTappers91

Quote from: DirToyBoy on June 10, 2007, 05:51:41 PM
that isnt a very specific answer? what do u mean? did you have to get different cables or hardware or something?
I'm thinking maybe I had a sticky e brake cable, and thats why I needed the spring.
Also not everyone has triple drilled flanges, which are bigger, and I had to clearance the caliper mount to make it work.
The grinding might be caused by something out of whack, like my drive shaft, u-joints, etc.
The kit may contribute to/ cause the problems or it may be the related parts...

dov'd85

i have all pro's and it works great! but when they welded the mount on the X-member for the e-brake arm they messed up the whole for the fill plug on the back of the t-case and i didn't catch that until i was changing fluid and i couldn't fit a shallow wall socket in their i had to take it all out and redrill the whole....
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rockcrawlinredneck

I know I have seen it somewhere, but can these mount with the FROR crossmember? I am pretty sure I saw a way to do it but cant remember.

Kevin

DTB

Quote from: dov'd85 on June 10, 2007, 07:45:42 PM
i have all pro's and it works great! but when they welded the mount on the X-member for the e-brake arm they messed up the whole for the fill plug on the back of the t-case and i didn't catch that until i was changing fluid and i couldn't fit a shallow wall socket in their i had to take it all out and redrill the whole....
so do you have the ebrake/crossmember combination unit? i think they call it the xxx member
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synwars

I went with the Sky version because of how stout it is. 1/4" Steel tig welded in a box form, less flex in the mount itself. It is so sturdy, I used that as my t-case mount on my crossmember. No problems as of yet. I did have to buy a new e-brake cable because mine broke, and when I but a squirt of oil down the cable it really helped to loosen it up.
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My All Pro works great.  Bolted up easy just had to shorten the cable.
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Quote from: rockcrawlinredneck on June 10, 2007, 07:51:51 PM
I know I have seen it somewhere, but can these mount with the FROR crossmember? I am pretty sure I saw a way to do it but cant remember.

Kevin

I have the allpro and it works with the FROR tcase crossmember.  I was told that the Sky does not.

toy4x4ota

Quote from: rockcrawlinredneck on June 10, 2007, 07:51:51 PM
I know I have seen it somewhere, but can these mount with the FROR crossmember? I am pretty sure I saw a way to do it but cant remember.

Kevin

i am wondering the same thing. do you just overlap the two plates, the one for the cossmember and the one for the t-case e-brake??, post pics if you can
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EarlKann

Crossmember goes on first, then the brake.  The caliper then mounts to the opposite side of the bracket than it usually would in order to have it align with the disk/flange.
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mudmaster

Quote from: TurtleTappers91 on June 10, 2007, 05:57:23 PM
Also not everyone has triple drilled flanges, which are bigger, and I had to clearance the caliper mount to make it work.
I just ordered the triple drilled flange. Are you saying it will interfere with the  caliper mount??
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EarlKann

I have a tripple drilled flange with my allpro and FROR and didn't have any problems.  Well, I did have one problem, I couldn't figure out which set of holes lined up right. :hammer:  Once I got it figured out I spray painted everything so I could see how to put it back together again.

rockhound

No experience with the one Sky's offers. I'm running All Pro's with no issues. Did have to swap out the cable running duals.  :thumbs:
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mudmaster

Quote from: EarlKann on June 11, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
I have a tripple drilled flange with my allpro and FROR and didn't have any problems. 
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Good to hear
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Quote from: TurtleTappers91 on June 10, 2007, 05:40:39 PM
*the return sping was not strong enough? lever would not return? I had to add a big spring.
*the brake wont hold too well on a hill without pulling REALLY hard to set it, maybe as good as the stocker...
*it makes grinding/grating noises
*the disc is really hard to line up if you have a triple drilled flange on the transfer case. the disc is triple drilled too, and maybe im a dork but I had a hell of a time
*It came with kinda crappy instructions.

Now I,m not bashing sky 's in any way, I run lots of their stuff,  and this is just my experience with this product....


I also run Skys product and have exactly the same issues with mine.  It makes noies, The threaded rod that actuates the brake bent, its heavy and hangs off the rear of the T case.  If I was to do it again I would run the all-pro one for sure.  Don't get me wrong it works but its all the littls things that make it a pain.
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DTB

oh yea i forgot i have a chain drive case (silly me)  :smack: none of these things will work on my rig (different bolt pattern on the case). Just another reason I need duals..this oddball chain drive case is driving me batty. I have a 93 xtra cab..not a V6 but chain drive its just stupid  :shakehead:
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TurtleTappers91

Quote from: mudmaster on June 11, 2007, 08:04:36 AM
I just ordered the triple drilled flange. Are you saying it will interfere with the  caliper mount??
I had to grind a good 1/4" off the sky's caliper mount. the Marlin Crawler triple drilled flange is in fact larger in diameter than the factory flange.
Quote from: EarlKann on June 11, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
I have a tripple drilled flange with my allpro and FROR and didn't have any problems.  Well, I did have one problem, I couldn't figure out which set of holes lined up right. :hammer:  Once I got it figured out I spray painted everything so I could see how to put it back together again.
I think I'm gonna put epoxy in all the holes I don't need so its a no brainer to line up.
I'd hate to have to line all that up out on the trail or something....

rockcrawlinredneck

Stupid question but... If all I ever hear about these triple drilled flanges is they are a pain in the butt and that yall cover the other holes or whatever. What is the point of them and why are people wasting the money on them? When was the last time you actually needed 3 difrent bolt pattern's?

Kevin

EarlKann

Quote from: rockcrawlinredneck on June 12, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
Stupid question but... If all I ever hear about these triple drilled flanges is they are a pain in the butt and that yall cover the other holes or whatever. What is the point of them and why are people wasting the money on them? When was the last time you actually needed 3 difrent bolt pattern's?

Kevin

My square tube front shaft has different flanges from the junk yard.  In the future, when I can afford it I'll have the original front shaft rebuilt with a long travel spline.  Then I'll cary the square tube for a spare.  It has enough slip that it will work for both the front and the rear just in case.

4XFlyin

I used AllPros. I do have the triple flange. Prior to installing I mocked it up while I had the transfercase on my bench and realized my flange would not sit flush with the disk. I just needed to grind a slight taper on one side of the hole on the disk as it goes over the flange. Had I not caught this It would have flexed the disk when tightening the driveshaft bolts. I don't think I would have caught this if I had tryed installing while the transfecase was still in the truck.
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i have the all pro and have nothing but good to say. i have had no problems at all.
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blyota91

Do any of you guys have pictures of either of these mounted with a stock crossmemeber.  I'm planning to buy one for my dd and would like to see how it fits up in there.  Thanks
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Personally, I would't run either one of them.  Use a Mico lock instead.  That is a lot of weight to put on the bearings and shaft of the t-case.  Of course, this is just my $.02