Supercharging an Acura

Started by alwayzbroken, March 29, 2007, 02:12:45 PM

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alwayzbroken

Hey, I am trying to find information on supercharging or turbo charging a 98 Acura Integra GSR. Does anybody know anything about these cars or know any good Honda/Acura forums? I generally hate import cars but anything with a blower is cool.  :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:[move]
If you still have control you aren't going fast enough

jimbo74

i like the way turbos sound on the ricers.... but in general i like s/c because they dont have lag

check out jackson racing, they make good stuff, but its expensive
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alwayzbroken

Quote from: jimbo74 on March 29, 2007, 02:18:20 PM
i like the way turbos sound on the ricers.... but in general i like s/c because they dont have lag

check out jackson racing, they make good stuff, but its expensive

I am leaning towards jackson racing for 2200$, but i didn't want to go that route without knowing more about the options.
If you still have control you aren't going fast enough

jimbo74

you know what i was thinking? pick up one of the import magazines, and look @ their builds.... the integras are one of the most modified cars, so parts for them are plentiful.... summit even sells quite a bit for them, im sure jegs and other similar places do as well
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Quote from: jimbo74 on March 29, 2007, 02:18:20 PM
i like the way turbos sound on the ricers.... but in general i like s/c because they dont have lag

check out jackson racing, they make good stuff, but its expensive

My Mazdaspeed 3 has very little lag with the turbo.  In fact, my buddy thinks his RSX Type-S has a more significant change into the I-VTEC range at 6,000 rpm than my 15.6 psi turbo does at 3,000 rpm.  Smaller turbo's have less lag, but run out of air, the Speed 3 dies at 6,000 rpm when it's time for a new gear (redline is 6,700 rpm).  My turbo is more efficient than any supercharger could ever be on the engine.
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alwayzbroken

I don't have any pictures. But it is a black GSR coupe.
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jimbo74

gsrs are 5 lug arent they? and the 2drs only? dont they also have something wierd with the tach that regular integras dont have? they are only sticks as well arent they?
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alwayzbroken

Quote from: jimbo74 on April 01, 2007, 01:18:07 AM
gsrs are 5 lug arent they? and the 2drs only? dont they also have something wierd with the tach that regular integras dont have? they are only sticks as well arent they?

I think GSRs are 4 lug, they come in 2 and 4 door, they only come with 5 speed manual transmissions and they have a much better engine. I'm not sure about the tach. It will do 70mph in 2nd gear.
If you still have control you aren't going fast enough

Redbeard3261

I've had to 135mph then got scared and backed off. I'm a Regional Safety Superintendent with Asplundh Tree Expert, didn't want to explain that ticket to my manager. 

alwayzbroken

Quote from: Redbeard3261 on April 02, 2007, 07:24:17 AM
I've had to 135mph then got scared and backed off. I'm a Regional Safety Superintendent with Asplundh Tree Expert, didn't want to explain that ticket to my manager. 

You almost did it, they only go 140 brand new.
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Kurlee Daddee

Turbos are much more efficient than superchargers, especially on a small displacement 4 cyclinder engines. Remember, superchargers run off the crankshaft and take power away from the motor. Since little Honda's make absolutely no torque to begin with, supercharging it would be a bad idea. Turbos run off exhaust gases. Turbo lag yes. Power from motor No. Unfortunately either application will only allow you to run very low boost because GSR motors run somewhere over 10:1 compression. I am no Honda expert. I just know a little about forced induction 4's.
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weirdtimes_7

If you google Integra Forums or Acura, it should come up with loads of places to go to talk to people about what you want to do. But look out, there are a lot of idiots out there who like to slap turbo's with a 200 shot wet shot of NOS on there cars... ya, i don't have to say anything. I think it's cool how they can get 1,200 HP out of a 4 banger, but look out for the people who don't know what in the hell they are doing...


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alwayzbroken

Quote from: Kurlee Daddee on April 03, 2007, 07:17:33 AM
Turbos are much more efficient than superchargers, especially on a small displacement 4 cyclinder engines. Remember, superchargers run off the crankshaft and take power away from the motor. Since little Honda's make absolutely no torque to begin with, supercharging it would be a bad idea. Turbos run off exhaust gases. Turbo lag yes. Power from motor No. Unfortunately either application will only allow you to run very low boost because GSR motors run somewhere over 10:1 compression. I am no Honda expert. I just know a little about forced induction 4's.

Yes, hondas have no torque, that is why the supercharger has an advantage. The supercharger makes torque off down low since the boost is provided uniformly all the way up. The supercharger really boosts the powerband where the power is needed. With a turbo, I would still have no torque until the boost was up which is where the car has plenty of power. I don't want to spend over 5K on a well setup Turbo which is what would be necessary to outperform the supercharger for my needs. The supercharger is less complex and cheaper. If I did a turbo, for the same ammount of money as the supercharger, I would have way more clutter and less performance. You also nailed it, the car has so much compression that i wouldn't be able to utilize all the boost that a turbo could provide over the supercharger so the gain in efficiency would be wasted unless major engine mods were done.

I really know quite a lot about this already and have pretty much made my mind up. I was only looking for personal expericence if anybody had some. That being said, I do appreciate the replies.
If you still have control you aren't going fast enough