Topic: Welding on lower shock mounts for rear - onto axle or ubolt plate?

[Yota Up]

Any benefits or drawbacks to weld it to the axle versus the ubolt plate?

Right now, there are no lower shock mounts.  No shocks at all.  Not a safe ride.

Your experience and wisdom is appreciated.
Thanks.

[jimbo74]

stock configuration on the 2wd is mounted to the u bolt plate..... several people run them on the axles....

i think either is fine

[Gittinit]

stock configuration on the 2wd is mounted to the u bolt plate..... several people run them on the axles....

i think either is fine

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[Yota Up [OP]]

jimbo, gittinit...

Come awn guys.  Now ya'll ain't making it easy for me to get started here.
I'm like a kid in a candy store - ya gotta give me a reason to go one way or another.

I guess, by default - I'll side with the high-paid engineers that work for Toyota, and do it the way it was done.  No need to re-invent unless you got some science for a cause to do so.

Thanks.

[Gittinit]

jimbo, gittinit...

Come awn guys.  Now ya'll ain't making it easy for me to get started here.
I'm like a kid in a candy store - ya gotta give me a reason to go one way or another.

I guess, by default - I'll side with the high-paid engineers that work for Toyota, and do it the way it was done.  No need to re-invent unless you got some science for a cause to do so.

Thanks.

The way you mount your shocks is up to you. Either method will serve the same purpose. There is no reason that one way is better than the other. The only reason I could justify one over the other is to get the shocks further out towards the wheels, which will help with body roll.

If ya want to talk angles / \ vs. vertical then I would say verticle is better even though I have mine mounted like / \ this.

[yotabj]

U bolt flip it and weld the mounts on the axle,,,,Something less to catch rocks

[DTB]

If ya want to talk angles / \ vs. vertical then I would say verticle is better even though I have mine mounted like / \ this.

the shock will be most effective at vertical. the main reason people mount them like 

/\ is for space reasons. this is correct, right?  if u can cut thru the bed, more vertical is better right?

[Tallchevy]

If you leave the shocks in the stock location, when you tuck a rear tire into the fender your shock will hit the spring & dent it  Mount the to the top of the axle close to the spring & angle to the center. Don't go to far like I did if it's your dd. My 4Runner has body roll even with the top off. Check the rear shock mount that Sky has. 

http://sky-manufacturing.com/

[Gittinit]

the shock will be most effective at vertical. the main reason people mount them like 

/\ is for space reasons. this is correct, right?  if u can cut thru the bed, more vertical is better right?

 

[jimbo74]

more vertical will dampen better however... it will also limit articulation.... when the vehicle leans, the aqxle wnats to move away from its relative position to the frame, the more verticle the shock, the less the axle can deflet

[Gittinit]

more vertical will dampen better however... it will also limit articulation.... when the vehicle leans, the aqxle wnats to move away from its relative position to the frame, the more verticle the shock, the less the axle can deflet

What?  Do you make this stuff up?  A shock won't effect an axles range of motion, or cause deflection as long as it dosent bind or bottom out, acting as an additional pivoting point in the supension.
Could you explain what you are trying to say a little better. I don't understand you.

[skipnrocks]

One advantage to going onto the axle would be a longer shaft and stroke.  It could help to improve articulation.  And you dont have to moun them below the axle tubes, you can put tabs paralell to the ground and you wouldnt have to worry much about them getting hung up.

[DanS]

Springs limit articulation not shocks, see Sky Manufacturing for some great idea's

[DTB]

One advantage to going onto the axle would be a longer shaft and stroke.  .

yes, mounting on the axle would effectively give you a couple inches more shock travel over the top of the ubolt plate