7MGE, 302, AOD, R150, 3VZ, A340H and what to do? I'am going crazy!

[JamesD]

Ok first off I searched all over and I think I did find my answer but I'am confused. Here is what I got to start with. I have an 89 ext cab V6 auto and I want to put either the 7MGE or a 302 Ford in it. I have the 7MGE complete with bellhousing. I have a 302 laying around as well. I also got a R150 with transfer case and bellhousing out of a 91 4Runner V6. Ok......

Now I read that the R150 will not bolt up to a Supra motor when used with the Supra turbo bellhousing. I also read that all R series transmissions share the same bolt pattern on the front of the trans. Which is which?

Now NWOR sells a bellhousing that will mate a 302 to an R150. Now I have dealt with NWOR in the past and never had any problems other than the lack of knowledge of what they are selling. Now is their bellhousing of good quality? I know the adapter is a bit pricey and the only other person I know of is Dellows out of Australia which is really expensive by the time it gets here.

Ok now if the R150 will not work with the 7MGE setup, then the W56 trans is what I need right? That means I have to buy another trans/tranfer case which I really do not want to do. I already have the bellhousing like I stated above to use a "W" series trans for this conversion and do not have the Supra turbo bellhousing yet until I know I'am 100% sure this bellhousing will work for this setup so this is an area I need help in.

Now the 302 is my second choice since I know alot about these motors owning a 90 Mustang. I can make my own mounts and exhaust and whatever else I need to do, that isnt the problem. The problem is I do not want to rebuild or swap any parts out of my R150 from other transmissions out there to use any other factory bellhousings like the AX15. I want to bolt in these motors without swapping trans parts like input shafts or tailhousings. I can get a Ford AOD trans but I will still have to get a different transfer case since the both of mine a chain driven which I can do if it is the last resort. The local yard has many of them but I will like to use what I got.

I know these questions have been asked a zillion times but I can never get a straight answer, some say this will work others say this will. Who do I believe? Also, I have had a hard time finding pictures for R series trans to see what is the physical differences between the three, R150, R151 and R154. I would like to see the bolt patterns of the front of the trans to help me figure this mess out. Any links to pics would greatly be appreciative!! 8)

[Oregon Crawler]

  If I was You, and If I had some money to play with, Look into the 4.6 V8 out of the newer mustangs, U can get them in an aluminum block and heads, and beleive it or not, but there pretty cheap, I saw a short block for 200$ and that was a aluminum block. and get a 5 spd out of the mustangs and get the adapter to mate toyota t-case, In all it'll be lighter than a 302, has more power, than a 302, being it has better electronics, thats my dream setup, some day thou.

[JamesD]

Ford modular V8 motors are too wide and costly plus it makes it harder to find adapters for since they are not the same as the 302/351.

James

[Oregon Crawler]

  The only thing I see in the 7m advantage over a v8. Is the the torque, it has some but not alot, so you wont break parts as easy, but you need to set that 7m up just right, or you will hate it, I have not yet got mine runnin yet so in performance wise can't say much about it, but cooling is an issue, and head gaskets, but some 2JZ parts are interchangable, so you can make quite a bit of power.

[JamesD]

I may go with the V8 Ford. I have to call NWOR to see how much the V6 bellhousing kit costs.

James

[boggerunner]

go with the 7m, so i can follow your build.   It will make it easier when i swap my 7m into my truck

[JamesD]

It has been done bogger. I think the site is Surarunners or something. The 5mge and thee 7mge have the same bolt pattern as a 22R. This is why people who do this swap look for a Turbo Toy stick trans (R151) and use that or just use the bellhousing. The bellhousing end is an R series and the other end is a 22R. I dont want to buy a used turbo bellhousing since they are rare and they go for a pretty good penny.

James

[JamesD]

One other thing, if I can find one cheap then yeah I will go with the 7M

James

[boggerunner]

ok, u lost me, if they are the same as a 22r, then why cant i use the w56?

[JamesD]

Ahh you can! But if you want to use the V6 trans (R150) then you need the turbo bellhousing other than that you use the bellhousing from a naturally aspirated Supra which comes with a W58 trans in which I have. I need the turbo bellhousing. One thing I'am still confused on is why wouldn't a 3rd gen Turbo Supra bellhousing work? They came with the R154 trans. This is the only area I'am having trouble in. I was told that the bellhousing will not work either because of the input shaft length on the R154 or something to do with the bellhousing on the R154.

James

[boggerunner]

i dont know why it wouldnt work, but if my tranny is the w58, why cant i use the rear section off my w56 on the w58 and make it stronger and have t-case mounts, im gonna try that one when i build it

[JamesD]

I dont see why not. As long as you have the NA bellhousing then it is a bolt in deal. They are common.

James

[boggerunner]

yep, i have an 86.5 supra, and i bought a 2jze for it, so now i need to find out what tranny goes behind that one, any ideals?

[JamesD]

Is the 2jze turbo or non? If non I think you have to use the 1jze due to length of input shaft. check out the Supra forums.

James

[boggerunner]

its non turbo, but gettin stand alone fuel management with a HC 1 turbo

[Greg55_99]

James, are you saying that the 22R and the 7MGE have the same engine bolt pattern? 
Greg

[JamesD]

From what I read, yes.

James