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ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« on: Aug 02, 2006, 02:49:01 AM »
Hi All,
i new to the board and have a question. from search info it is stated that you can swap a ax5 input shaft in a W56 trans. not sure if this is right? ax5 has 27t on the shaft and the W56 has 32t on the shaft. whats up?
i,m in the process of doing a diesel conversion and need to put a longer input shaft in a W56 trans. any help?
thanks,
Ken

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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #1 on: Aug 05, 2006, 11:45:36 AM »
ax5 will swap into a G54   not a W56
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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #2 on: Aug 06, 2006, 02:56:21 AM »
thanks coyote,
thats what i thought, but some info i found was misleading.
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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #3 on: Aug 09, 2006, 05:27:45 PM »
I hope this wasn't the misleading info:

"Some further info from Michael Jamison:

"Not sure who was looking for this info, they signed as guest, but here is some info if you can set aside your pride of having Toy parts in your Jeep. But it really is a good way to go.

If your AX5 is crapping out every 15,000 miles and you are tired of rebuilding and want a nice front axle too this is for you.

A toy 5 speed tranny will bolt right up to the AX5 bellhousing with no mods. You take the input shaft from the AX5 and put it into the Toy tranny to retain your correct length input. It is about an inch difference. The Toy input bearings goes on the AX5 shaft.

Your stock clutch will work with a Toy pressure plate. slave cylinder is on the opposite side, but otherwise bolts right up, THe speed sensor bolts right up.

You will have to make a custom crossmember. but it is possible to get it damn near flat belly with minor cutting of the tub. driveshaft will be a little short in the rear, but with a standard ujoint shaft it is livable. you have plenty of gearing options for the t case. 4.0, 4.7, 5.0.

You will also have to swap out the front axle to passenger side drop. Been looking at those Scout 44 axles for a swap. Now you can do it.

This all came about on what we did to a buddy of mines YJ.
Trany was shot. He wanted a buildup anyway.
Toy tranny and transfer. Scout 44's 4.88's spool and Ox locker. flat belly sping over and 36's. Worked out pretty good and still works well.

Best of all he has a tranny that will outlast the Jeep."
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Also from TMF on the Pirate Board:

"My friend Mike Jamison had an old W56 trans sitting in his shop. I was on my third AX5 and needed something stronger. Both the AX5 and the W56 are made by the same company (Aisin) . Long story short you use the bell housing off the AX5 and bolt it to the W56. I took mine to a trans shop and had them change the input shaft from the AX5 to the W56 (you can not do this on the turbo trans) they had to grind the case a little to get it to fit. I have had it for a year and no problems. It is also nice running the toyota transfer case"

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http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:G4rtvBWTfxMJ:marylandcreepers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D183004%26highlight%3D%26sid%3Dc35bbc94dd993e19b25a2a763f1f99b0+w56+ax5+input+shaft&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

Maybe Marling or Big Mike can chime in here...

Greg


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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 01, 2006, 12:44:08 PM »
I did this swap in my yj. I will post pic's asap.

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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 01, 2006, 06:42:07 PM »
Ive seen Marlin state this before,  he says  the ax5  and the G54,  now  i know  the G  and W  have the same bellhousing pattern,  so with machine work it might be,  but  with the G54  there isnt any need to machine the case/housing
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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 04, 2006, 06:36:58 PM »
here are some pics




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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 05, 2006, 10:30:39 AM »
here are some pics


G54  at its finest :woohoo:

thats a Jeep bellhousing ??
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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #8 on: Sep 05, 2006, 12:28:05 PM »
the bellhousing is jeep. from a 1992 ax5
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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 05, 2006, 10:24:42 PM »
So that's a G54 and NOT a W56?

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Re: ax5 input shaft in a W56 ?
« Reply #10 on: Sep 07, 2006, 12:25:34 PM »
G54  at its finest :woohoo:

thats a Jeep bellhousing ??

thanks for letting me know. I was told it was a w56. I'm glad I know for my next swap. anything beats an ax5

thanks
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