Tranny specs for upgrade options

Started by whitetoy, December 30, 2003, 01:01:02 PM

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whitetoy

I have the original carbed 22R in my runner, and the G52 is
starting to show signs of wear (synchros in 3rd and reverse ).
Rather than simply have Marlin re-build it, I was thinking of
upgrading to either a R151F or G54 .

Questions about the G54 :
  1 -  lower 1st gear than the G52 ?
  2 -  can I use the same 21-spline TC  ?
               (contains Marlin gearset #67 and a twin-stick)
  3 - same overall length as a G52 ?
  4 - forward-shifting like the G52 ?
  5 - how can you tell a G54 from a G52 by looking at it ?

Questions about the R151F :
  1 - same overall length as the G52 ?

I know I'll have to replace the output (?) shaft of the TC with
a 23-spline, if I go with a R151F.

Thanx for your help.
Rick
1984 4Runner
4.7 Marlin Crawler TC #67

Marlin

Whitetoy, thanks for your questions.
The G52 and the G54 share the same gear ratios, length, and t-case requirements :thumbs:
The only sure way to identifly the stronger G54 is to remove the nosecone and inspect the larger input bearing. If it is a sealed bearing, it is a 80x23 mm heavy duty G54 trans. However, early G54 still used the junk G52 steel 1/2 fork with nylon shoes that always wear out, and steel 3/4 forks. All G52's used the same front input bearing as the 83' L52. It is a 80x20 mm open face bearing and has a poor service record.  G54's also had upgraded aluminun alloy 1/2, 3/4, forks and a steeper, (stronger) helix angle on the input and countershaft constant run gears. Both G52 and G54's use the same stronger, narrow teeth rev idler gears.
This is my short answer :sleeping:

Because both G52-54 transmissions and R151F's  were designed for a bench seat truck, upgrading to the turbo trans is a 100% bolt in job providing you install a 23 spline t-case input gear. Both trans are 25.5" long and even use the same forward style t-case shift rods. :beerchug:

Remember that a G series trans uses 8 bolts in the center, W's use 9 and R's use 10 bolts to hold the transmission housings togeather.

Marlin
1980 Toyota - 1997 3RZ-FE 2.7l Engine, Turbo R151F 4.31:1, Triple Turbo Marlin Crawler Billet (2.28x4.70x4.70) = 1,148:1 Crawl Ratio, Marlin Crawler Twin Stick and Short Throw Shift Kits, 30mm H/D Output Shaft, High Angle Drive Lines, 5.29:1, ARBs, High Pinion Front, 25mm HD Billet High Steer Kit, 6 Pin Locking Hub Bodies, 86+ Wide Rear End, V6 3rd member, Chromolly Axles all around, 37" IROKs with Beadlocks, York onboard air - Rollbar air tank, Premier Power Welder, Marlin Crawler 4" USA-made Leaf Springs, Bilstein Shocks, et cetera....

whitetoy

Hey Marlin, thanx for taking the time for a nicely detailed reply.
I know that the R151F is the best way to go, but they are hard to find, and pricier.
I was hoping that the G54 would have the lower first gear, like the R151F.
There are likely more G54's out there, and would be a true 'bolt-on'.

When my G52 finally dies, I'll be coming down to Fresno for one of your R151F's.
Rick
1984 4Runner
4.7 Marlin Crawler TC #67