Author Topic: Doc Holiday's yota buildup (Read 27120 times)

Doc Holiday · « **on:** Apr 20, 2006, 03:21:32 AM »

i have a 1980 toyota 4x4 shortbox, i wana get some good springs that will flex good for relly cheap, so i wana get some chevy 63 inch springs or some Ford Springs, ive read alot about using 63 inch chevys but not to much on fords, so first i have a couple of questions.

What year should i get the ford springs from, and how long are they.

Also which springs will give you more flex.

And What springs give more lift.

What would be the best , Chevy or Ford .

Thanks for any help!!

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 20, 2006, 03:26:23 AM »

Hi, i have a 1980 toyota 4x4 shortbox, it looks like its lifted but it could just be because of the large custom shackle it has, i wana do a chevy 63 inch or ford leaf swap in the rear and run my old rears up from, my question is, how long are the stock rear leafs of my toyota, also if they are not stock what year should i get the toyota leafs to run up front. Thanks!!

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 20, 2006, 12:01:36 PM »

i think the stock rears have 4 leaves, unless you are going to run highsteer you can take a couple leaves from the rear pack and ad them to your front packs

or do like i did, get some 2wd f150 springs take them apart, ad a couple leafs to the front and a couple to the rear

3-4 inches of lift for $30

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 21, 2006, 07:34:48 PM »

wow, dats cheap, $40 for 4 inches of lift

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 09:11:59 PM »

and that included new tiebolts

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2006, 03:26:22 AM »

what gives more lift out of chevy 63 inch springs, a double shackle set up or a regular shackle. i kind of like the double shackle setup cause itès easeir. does it also give more flex.

primodevil · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2006, 10:51:15 AM »

in my experiance yes, it is a little more complicated, and in some cases the upper shackel will tend to either rest, or hit the frame... an easy solution could be as easy as some urithane counter sunck and bolte to the frame... good luck

rouchx4 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2006, 11:09:44 AM »

I run 63" chevies on my toy longbed and I love them. I have the stock chevy shackle resting against the frame and I made fairly long shackles that run to the spring. I get all kinds of travel.

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:18:17 AM »

hi, i am looking for a cheap toyota minitruck, ( 1980 toyota 4x4 pickup ) and i would like at least 5 inches of lift from it, i heard about the chevys but it seems like a alot of work to pay for, or is it.

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2006, 08:08:13 AM »

Rears up front, junkyard for the rear suspension, s10 ranger 63" chevies...

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2006, 11:57:38 AM »

go find a F150 88-93 i think and get some 2 1/2 inch wide multi leaf springs , then add a couple leaves to the front and a couple to the rear

thats what i did and ive got about 4 inches, and MUCHO flex

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #11 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:44:45 PM »

do the rears mount in stock postionion or do i have to make new hangers....ive tried researching that but i cant find anything that says so.
even in the faqs

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:50:54 PM »

Is this a somewhat decent body lift, i want cheap and easy, i heard dont go any more then 3 inches. what do you guys thinks.

DTB · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:53:36 PM »

sure, looks good to me.

DTB · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:54:25 PM »

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BodyLiftKit.shtml read the info on here about body lifts

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2006, 03:36:23 PM »

Quote from: DirToyBoy on May 27, 2006, 02:54:25 PM

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BodyLiftKit.shtml read the info on here about body lifts

I don't know if there is a big price difference, but 4crawler makes a very good kit...it might be worth waiting an extra week or two to get a really good product.
Mark

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:00:14 PM »

true enough, but i do want a 3 inch kit,

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:02:19 PM »

ok i decided what i want to do, i think im gona keep my current suspension, but this is what i want to do, i wana keep my current lift but maby ad 2 inches of of extra lift, my front shackle looks stock so is there a aftermarket shackle that i can buy that will lift my front end 2 inches, and i will probably just go with 2 inch lift block for the rear, how does that sound!!!!

DTB · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:06:27 PM »

lift blocks. you're not giving us much info here. what kind of suspension do you currently have?

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #19 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:12:51 PM »

it looks to be stock with a custom 12 inch shackle, its got about 3 inches of lift, im running 33 inch tires with good room, 2 inch lift blocks in the rear was what i was thinking.....

DTB · « **Reply #20 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:15:24 PM »

Quote from: Doc Holiday on May 27, 2006, 04:12:51 PM

it looks to be stock with a custom 12 inch shackle,

that's some big friggin' shackles!

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #21 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:15:49 PM »

also, its not gona be a dialy driver, yes ,, they are HUGE shackles, it looks funny to, here is a picture of my truck

http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10026734jc.jpg

Look at the shackles in the rear LOL

http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10026581ka.jpg

DTB · « **Reply #22 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:16:33 PM »

Quote from: Doc Holiday on May 27, 2006, 04:12:51 PM

it looks to be stock with a custom 12 inch shackle, its got about 3 inches of lift

so is it stock or a 3inch lift. im cornfused

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #23 on:** May 27, 2006, 04:19:55 PM »

dont know, pretty sure itès stock, the rear leafs have 7 leafs on them and the front have 3 leafs, look at the shackle, maby thats why its got so much lift for stock, also it is on a custom frame .

http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10026581ka.jpg

zeke jr. · « **Reply #24 on:** May 30, 2006, 04:44:19 PM »

the only problem from my experience is w/ the double shacle under hard brakin especially down hill the shackles might extend open. i dunno if this is common but it makes for a scary ride at times.

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #25 on:** May 30, 2006, 05:00:01 PM »

In terms of lift, the length of the shackles and geometry of the mounts will determine what suspension height you end up with, not the style of shackle.

Hyena · « **Reply #26 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:09:24 PM »

the double shackle will give more downtravel depending on what shock you run. I have never had mine unload on me on the road or going down a steep hill.

tt21 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 30, 2006, 11:18:18 PM »

make a shackle hanger that is dropped from the fram 2'' or so, kinda like the dropped front spring hanger, but for the shackles in the rear. buddy of mine did the drop shackle hanger and i think 9'' shakles and got 9'' of lift out of that set up. just an idea

Doc Holiday · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:04:59 AM »

Hello, i am doing a buildup on my 80 toyota 4x4 shortbox pickup, and i am planing on doing chevy 63s in the rear but i have not found a pair of springs for the front yet, i want something that will give me some lift and somewhat decent flex, i heard people using Rancho 44044 Front springs, i also hear they give you about 5.5 inches of lift which i like, also do these 44044 springs mount into stock posistion or do i have to make new shackle hangers.
Does anyone know where to buy these springs.

85 4runr · « **Reply #29 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:29:08 PM »

79COYOTE does your rear springs flex good with a few leaves added Im in the process of trying to get 3 inches and was wondering wether to go with ford or chevys or just make a pack that will fit in my stock location

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