Topic: 1983 22R vs 1984 22R

[Volcom]

I've got a blown up 22R in my 84 4Runner.  I have found a guy selling an 1983 22R with 14,000 ORIGINAL MILES for $650.  Is an engine that old with that few miles worth $650?  It would save me taking my current motor apart, buying a rebuild kit, having the machine work done, and maybe having to replace the crankshaft and connecting rods because of a nasty nasty knock.

[79coyotefrg]

$650  is pretty high,  but if you can hear it run and it purrs like a kitten  offer him $500  if you cant hear it run and cant see the truck it came from  run away 

[kneedownnate]

Sometimes you gotta watch older vehicles with low miles, usually they're driven short distances, and most the time people don't actually let them warm up, so it could potentially have a couple thousand miles worth of wear.  Does it have a million mile odometer or does it turn over at 100,000 miles?  I'm just sayin you might wanna confirm whether or not it actually has those miles or has rolled over once, twice or   I'm with glen too, but I'd offer $400 and take it from there.  I usually just say I'm gonna leave cause I don't want to offend them with my offer, and they say just make the offer.  You'd be surprised by how often people will come way down.  Good luck.

[kyle_22r]

i'd be worried about the seals.  with that few miles, odds are it's sat for long periods of time and the seals may have gotten brittle.

rebuilding your engine with modern parts would definitely make a good mill though...

[79coyotefrg]

yep volcom,  if you buy it i would change the front and rear main seals regardless

[Volcom [OP]]

Do you guys think it would be better just to build up my 22R?  That engine is missing the intake and the carb as well.  If I throw the supercharger I've got on it, it won't matter but I could sell that stuff if I had it.

I'm thinking no on the deal as well but I figured I'd ask the opinions of the 22R Gods 

[brainlessfool]

That engine is missing the intake and the carb as well. 

so then you did not hear it run and will have to take his word on the miles?

I'd run.

[Volcom [OP]]

so then you did not hear it run and will have to take his word on the miles?

I'd run.

Yea, that's what I figured as well.  Thanks guys 

[kneedownnate]

Yup, paint yer but like brainless's avatar and show it to him.......

[kyle_22r]

if you're gonna go supercharged your motor should be fine.  if you want to get some better performance, i'd get a hold of LC and order some forged pistons though.  stock cast ones won't take a lot of boost, and stock compression for '81-84 is 9.0:1.  i'd bump it down to at least 8.4:1 depending on how much boost you want to run.

on the other hand, you could always find a 20R bottom end and put your 22R head on it.  stock compression on a 20R is 8.4:1 and the combustion chamber size is similar on the 20R and '81-84 22R.  only downside is that the 20R pistons are still cast(though you could probably get KB pistons for it) and you lose 200CC of displacement.

[Volcom [OP]]

Well, no worries about the 22R.  I've got a different plan 

[jimbo74]

Well, no worries about the 22R. I've got a different plan

uh oh, now we are worried

whats the "different plan"?

and once you divulge that info:

 

[79coyotefrg]

if you're gonna go supercharged your motor should be fine. if you want to get some better performance, i'd get a hold of LC and order some forged pistons though. stock cast ones won't take a lot of boost, and stock compression for '81-84 is 9.0:1. i'd bump it down to at least 8.4:1 depending on how much boost you want to run.

on the other hand, you could always find a 20R bottom end and put your 22R head on it. stock compression on a 20R is 8.4:1 and the combustion chamber size is similar on the 20R and '81-84 22R. only downside is that the 20R pistons are still cast(though you could probably get KB pistons for it) and you lose 200CC of displacement.

LC Cam,  22block, 20R head     not for boost tho,  just put regular efi pistons in it  then run 20 psi boost 

[Volcom [OP]]

uh oh, now we are worried

whats the "different plan"?

and once you divulge that info:

 

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