upgraded to 17" rims from 16's

[V-Man]

  Hey guys I just bought 17 X 8 rims to go on my tundra. The measure 17 X 8 w/ 4.5" backspacing. Now my stock setup was 16 X 7 w/ 4.5" back space, they had lots of room on the rear between the frame/springs, but at the front there is only the thickness of my hand( palm to back of hand). Thats between an 1" and a 1 1/4" at the tire and the top shock hoop on the front.  Did I just flush $943 down the drain. Do ya think I am going to need a spacer on the front, and if so how much 1" 1.5" 2"?   Also I looked around for tires, and they only seem to come in two sizes LT tires up too 285/70R/17 and 37 to 44" which all need a 17 X 10 to 17 X 13 rim.     Because I have 17's not 16 or 18" rims I have to run small tires or lift my truck so high I need I pilots license to drive it.    What gives guys all the drum to disc convertions and the disc brake up grade I have found for my truck ask for 17" rims minimum 

[alwayzbroken]

richard Cepek FCII is a good tire. It is reasonably priced too. There was a 100$ dollar rebate offer that ended on halloween. I have these tires and like them so far, but I have only driven about 500 miles on them. I have 33x12.50R17.

[V-Man]

richard Cepek FCII is a good tire. It is reasonably priced too. There was a 100$ dollar rebate offer that ended on halloween. I have these tires and like them so far, but I have only driven about 500 miles on them. I have 33x12.50R17.

     I got a set of 285/70/17's to get me through the winter. I mean nothing wrong with FREE Wranglers right. But I am still worried about rubbing the inside of the tires on my upper strut hoop.      I know they are free but I still don't want to destroy them.

[reklund5]

If the tires don't rub that upper strut hoop at full droop, then they won't rub at full compression.  The way the suspension on the front of a Tundra is setup, the closest that upper control arm hoop gets to the tire is when the truck is up in the air and there is no weight on the wheels.  If it clears then, it should clear on the ground no problem. 

I see Tundras and Sequoias come into work all the time with 20" wheels/tires that are way closer to that control arm than 1.25"

Post up some pictures so we can get a better idea of your wheel/tire combo and how it fits on the truck. 

Ryan

[V-Man]

Post up some pictures so we can get a better idea of your wheel/tire combo and how it fits on the truck. 

Ryan

 

  Ok, I only have the stock wheel and tires on right now.But I get some  's for ya.

[V-Man]

If the tires don't rub that upper strut hoop at full droop, then they won't rub at full compression.  The way the suspension on the front of a Tundra is setup, the closest that upper control arm hoop gets to the tire is when the truck is up in the air and there is no weight on the wheels.  If it clears then, it should clear on the ground no problem. 

I see Tundras and Sequoias come into work all the time with 20" wheels/tires that are way closer to that control arm than 1.25"

Post up some pictures so we can get a better idea of your wheel/tire combo and how it fits on the truck. 

Ryan

Ok Ryan, here are the pics tell me what ya think  

[V-Man]

  well I guess they don't look too bad in the pics. that was both the right and left side of the front.. anyways here are a couple more.

[V-Man]

   and late but not least.

[reklund5]

I take it that the truck is sitting on the ground on the wheels in those pics?  (not on jackstands or a lift or anything goofy?)

If so, looks like you'll be fine.  I hate to say it, but you'll have to put the other wheels and tires on and just try it out for a while.  I've seen them WAY closer than that before though.  One dumbass even took a grinder to the knuckle arm  to clearance it on a Tacoma with those stupid knucle extenders that come in some of the lift kits...  I wouldn't reccomend that at all, but you can get pretty close before it becomes a problem.

Good luck

Ryan

[V-Man]

I take it that the truck is sitting on the ground on the wheels in those pics?  (not on jackstands or a lift or anything goofy?)

If so, looks like you'll be fine.  I hate to say it, but you'll have to put the other wheels and tires on and just try it out for a while.  I've seen them WAY closer than that before though.  One dumbass even took a grinder to the knuckle arm  to clearance it on a Tacoma with those stupid knucle extenders that come in some of the lift kits...  I wouldn't reccomend that at all, but you can get pretty close before it becomes a problem.

Good luck

Ryan

I got the tires on the deck and picked up the rims today check them out, Polished Alum...
  Ya that's me holding up a rim with one hand.

[V-Man]

a couple more of me doing the arm curl thing.

[V-Man]

  Ok they are on the truck, tell me what ya think..

[wa4x4]

Thats a pretty large dent in the bed, good work. The truck looks good dude, nice free tires.

[jimbo74]

that gap is huge... the rim wont come clsoe to rubbing that, and the tires wont either unless your aired down really low and sideways

[hudlenutz]

Sweet mother of shiny aluminum goodness.....  Nice truck.

Looks like it's time for bigger tires too.  MUAHAHAHAHA

[toybuilt]

I just did a 2.5" lift on a taco a week ago. It was a spacer in the front and blocks in the rear, we put 33" tires on it and no rubbing in the front, if you take the mud flaps off.

One thing you have to make sure that you keep your 4.5" offset or else your nice wheels and tires will not fit, its common to all tacos.

[V-Man]

Thats a pretty large dent in the bed, good work. The truck looks good dude, nice free tires.

 

Well the tires were not free, they cost me a 3 element 2meter beam, a 5 element 2 meter beam, and a 80meter to 10meter multiband HF dipole.  Thats about $400 to $500 dollars worth of Antennas.   Now if I had bought the tires NEW it would have been a $1000-$1100 bill.

I just happened to have the antennas in storage.  I had four black steel rims on order( they got back ordered) that were 16 X 8, but needed 17 X 8 's and  so had to go with the Alum..

  First idea was  rims $500
                           Tires  $1400

Second plan     Rims $941
                            Tires  $ three antennas  Appox $500      
            Installation kits $95


    Were are the FREE tires

[V-Man]

[quote author=toybuilt link=topic=16920.msg199339#msg199339 date=1135013994
One thing you have to make sure that you keep your 4.5" offset or else your nice wheels and tires will not fit, its common to all tacos.

  I got a tundra...Ya but the backspacing is the same. 

If I want to trim the fenders I think 36's or 37's would fit. I would also have to change to a rim that is off-set to push the tire out, or use wheel spacers.

[toybuilt]

Offset rims sounds the best to me, then you don't have to worry about always re torking the aluminum spacers.

[V-Man]

Offset rims sounds the best to me, then you don't have to worry about always re torking the aluminum spacers.

  The good thing about my tundra build is that I am getting a very good grasp on how to do things      , the bad part is that i seem to be doing things with and to my tundra that no one around here has ever heard of.. You should see some looks I get when I ask about people questions....                 :bull crap: 

[toybuilt]

I meant Tundra in that previous post. I lifted a Tundra 2.5 inches my bad  

[BUDDERS]

Wow, that's plenty of gap.  You shouldn't have any problem rubbing.  I recently worked on a Tundra w/ either 20's or 22's and with the suspension maxed out on the lift at work, the tires rubbed the upper control arms bad. With it on the ground, there was about 3mm clearance.  I don't understand why anyone would want 20 inch  rims or bigger.  Some people...     

[toybuilt]

Wow, that's plenty of gap. You shouldn't have any problem rubbing. I recently worked on a Tundra w/ either 20's or 22's and with the suspension maxed out on the lift at work, the tires rubbed the upper control arms bad. With it on the ground, there was about 3mm clearance. I don't understand why anyone would want 20 inch rims or bigger. Some people...

On the Tundra I just lifted we put 33x 12.50R20's on it just becouse thats what the guy wanted

[BUDDERS]

Let me guess.  It looked nice, but rode like crap because of all the extra weight from the wheels, right?

[toybuilt]

It looks good, I never got a chance to drive it though because the wheels came in on my day off.