Author Topic: Factory full floater (Read 6098 times)

8D3TOY · « **on:** Oct 10, 2005, 01:31:11 PM »

Hey all,
I was reading the Pirate board and one of the guys has put together a full floater from a Toyota dually rear axle. This got me thinking that some of the land cruiser places import full floating rears for the Fj60, did Toyota ever put full floaters in mini trucks in other countries like Australia? I have searched the web for foreign Toyotas but can't find any clear wheel/hub pics.

Hyena · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 10, 2005, 01:32:47 PM »

On pirate they said all 1 ton dually 2wd toys came with a full floater. Do you have any 1 ton dually 2wds toy's over in australia?

8D3TOY · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 10, 2005, 01:42:07 PM »

I'm not from Austrlia, I wonder if a full floate from an Fj60 could be made to work

jimbo74 · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 11, 2005, 10:03:43 PM »

the 1ton full floater form a dually is not the same as a regular 8" rear.. it is way different... the lugs are like 8 on like a 10" pattern or something with like 2" wide lugnuts.... (numbers are exagerated) but its friggen huge!

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 12, 2005, 05:35:21 PM »

yep i think thye uses the diff housing from a forklift, at least thats what they look like

k20 · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 02:08:09 AM »

i modified a rear end out of an 75 series cab chassis landsruiser for my 85' hilux.not an easy job,but it can be done!

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 05:23:59 AM »

Man-a-fre imports aussie fullfloat landcruiser rear axles but i think they are offset like the front axle, not 100% sure though

FIREBALL · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 07:37:24 AM »

Isn't it Sky that makes a full floater kit? It's spendy though from what I recall, like 700 bones. Is there a machinest here on the board that could make the adapter that bolts onto the housing, that the spendle bolts to? Then axles still have to be made.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 07:54:06 AM »

Quote from: FIREBALL on Oct 15, 2005, 07:37:24 AM

Isn't it Sky that makes a full floater kit? It's spendy though from what I recall, like 700 bones. Is there a machinest here on the board that could make the adapter that bolts onto the housing, that the spendle bolts to? Then axles still have to be made.

ive done some mock ups and a set of long side inner 30spline bobbylongs would make the perfect shaft, then just the adapter

Makman · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 08:20:09 AM »

Quote from: FIREBALL on Oct 15, 2005, 07:37:24 AM

Isn't it Sky that makes a full floater kit? It's spendy though from what I recall, like 700 bones. Is there a machinest here on the board that could make the adapter that bolts onto the housing, that the spendle bolts to? Then axles still have to be made.

I believe it's Front Range as I was just looking at this the other day. Besides the $789 currently listed on their web page, you need to provide a lot of components to finish the job. This will be true whether you purchase their kit or try it yourself. These parts are not provided with their kit:

Factory wheel bearings for 79-95 front axles.
Factory hubs from 81-85 solid axle truck.
Factory locking hubs from 79-85 truck.
Inner wheel bearing seal.
Stock 79-85 front spindles
"Loaded" calipers from early Supra.

If you have the spare solid axle front hubs, locking hubs, bearings, and spindle then only the Supra calipers are left. They run about $120 at NAPA but don't forget the $70 core. That makes $380 for the pair assuming you don't have Supra caliper cores laying around. The other items would start to add up quickly as well. I estimated that the actual cost of full-floating an axle with this kit would be $1200 to $1600. That's a lot of coin but it's cheaper than a Dana 60 and you are effectively doing a disc brake conversion that retains a parking brake at the same time. You also get to keep your third member and locker by building the 8".

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 08:34:24 AM »

yea its front rangeoffroad, but the only thing they have in the kit is the shafts and the adapter i have most all the other parts and if you use a proportioning valve you could maybe use front solid axle calipers

Makman · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 08:46:05 AM »

Good point 79. That would save a couple bucks. Due to the higher volume of the rear calipers relative to drum brake wheel cylinders, you may want the larger 1" bore master cylinder to keep the pedal feel. FROR says it's not necessary so I guess I'm a skeptic.

Are you running a T-case parking brake or thinking of just going without one if you do this full-float conversion?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 09:24:11 AM »

Quote from: Makman on Oct 15, 2005, 08:46:05 AM

Good point 79. That would save a couple bucks. Due to the higher volume of the rear calipers relative to drum brake wheel cylinders, you may want the larger 1" bore master cylinder to keep the pedal feel. FROR says it's not necessary so I guess I'm a skeptic.

Are you running a T-case parking brake or thinking of just going without one if you do this full-float conversion?

yea i was kinda thinking of the tcase ebrake, but i was looking at a subaru the other day and it had ebrake cables to the front discs

but im poor so thats why i figured solid axle cal's i already have a 1 inch bore M/C but it came from a celica

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 09:25:45 AM »

im good at fabbing stuff so i might go to a bike shop and get a disc and caliper and make my own, cant stand having allpoo parts on my truck

Makman · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 04:21:42 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Oct 15, 2005, 09:25:45 AM

im good at fabbing stuff so i might go to a bike shop and get a disc and caliper and make my own, cant stand having allpoo parts on my truck

Here's a couple links that might help with your home brew parking brake:

http://www.airheart-brakes.com/cal-mb1.html
http://www.bc4x4.com/chrisw/projects/ebrake/ebrake.asp

zooky · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 15, 2005, 05:25:14 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Oct 15, 2005, 07:54:06 AM

ive done some mock ups and a set of long side inner 30spline bobbylongs would make the perfect shaft, then just the adapter

Rockrat (on pirate) made me a full floater axle and it uses Longs 30 spline long side inners, this is for a pre-IFS axle.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 24, 2005, 04:23:37 PM »

i was sure that would be a winner, , Zooky, are you running lockouts or flanges??

zooky · « **Reply #17 on:** Oct 26, 2005, 10:52:35 AM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Oct 24, 2005, 04:23:37 PM

i was sure that would be a winner, , Zooky, are you running lockouts or flanges??

lockouts, I went with the full-floater to make flat towing easier, I just unlock the hubs and go. I am thinking of getting the 30-spliners for the front, then 3 of the 4 shafts will be the same which means less spares to carry (not that I would have many problems with 30 spliners in a samuari

) I am using FRORs hub studs also for the extra strength

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 28, 2005, 04:50:35 PM »

Quote from: zooky on Oct 26, 2005, 10:52:35 AM

lockouts, I went with the full-floater to make flat towing easier, I just unlock the hubs and go. I am thinking of getting the 30-spliners for the front, then 3 of the 4 shafts will be the same which means less spares to carry (not that I would have many problems with 30 spliners in a samuari ) I am using FRORs hub studs also for the extra strength

did rockrat make the adapter or is it welded together ??

rockrat · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 20, 2005, 02:02:11 PM »

Here is a pic of what I did for Zooky.. It uses 30 spline shafts from Long. and all stock front hub components.
It also has a new bushing that holds stock seals so there is no oil leakage

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #20 on:** Nov 25, 2005, 05:16:25 PM »

now that looks sweet

so rockrat

how much

rockrat · « **Reply #21 on:** Nov 25, 2005, 09:05:21 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Nov 25, 2005, 05:16:25 PM

now that looks sweet

so rockrat how much

You have mail

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #22 on:** Nov 26, 2005, 06:33:14 AM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Nov 25, 2005, 05:16:25 PM

now that looks sweet

so rockrat how much

94redtoy · « **Reply #23 on:** Nov 26, 2005, 07:51:02 PM »

x2 on how much. that is beautiful.

Wilson · « **Reply #24 on:** Nov 26, 2005, 10:04:18 PM »

I'll take a price on how much too please

Turtle Bite · « **Reply #25 on:** Nov 28, 2005, 03:17:59 PM »

Please PM me a price on the adapter as well.
What is the length of the shafts used with this adapter?

sam2145871 · « **Reply #26 on:** Dec 02, 2006, 07:45:18 AM »

I know that this is a dead thread, but I was wondring if anyone else has tried making their own Full flopater kit like rockrat?! Or for that matter does anyone know how to get ahold of him? I've ppmed him about a month ago and havent gotten a responce. Anyone?

crawlninspector · « **Reply #27 on:** Dec 04, 2006, 10:48:52 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Oct 15, 2005, 08:34:24 AM

yea its front rangeoffroad, but the only thing they have in the kit is the shafts and the adapter i have most all the other parts and if you use a proportioning valve you could maybe use front solid axle calipers

I used the porportioning valve and slapped on a set of vented FJ rotors and some front calipers off of a 87' toyota 4X.

8D3TOY · « **Reply #28 on:** Dec 08, 2006, 02:12:17 PM »

there is a thread on pirate right now about Full floaters

8D3TOY [OP]

8D3TOY [OP]

Related Topics