Author Topic: I don't care what you guys say, it really is a dampner/harmonic balancer (Read 6500 times)

Prismo · « **on:** Aug 10, 2005, 11:18:53 PM »

We had Skinny's front dampner off so I took pictures (with my crummy camera) to show you unbelievers the "front pulley" as some of you guys call it really is a dampner/harmonic balancer. Note the dental pick buried in the rubber layer sandwiched between the metal.

Prismo · « **Reply #1 on:** Aug 10, 2005, 11:21:21 PM »

mr4x42u · « **Reply #2 on:** Aug 10, 2005, 11:25:56 PM »

yup..thats what it be..is that our lesson for the day??

maybe tomarrow you an show us where the gas goes

Prismo · « **Reply #3 on:** Aug 10, 2005, 11:40:30 PM »

Tommorows lesson will consist of How to install muffler bearings correctly

wa4x4 · « **Reply #4 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 12:01:07 AM »

Oh but I have a light on my dash telling me to refill my blinker fluid and i dont know how!

kneedownnate · « **Reply #5 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 12:18:06 AM »

damper yo, it aint no dampner.....or dampener....

Prismo · « **Reply #6 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 12:45:54 AM »

So you are telling me the rubber layer is sandwiched in there for looks?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #7 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 01:41:01 AM »

Whatever you say, I know better than to argue with a grumpy old man...

Ferg · « **Reply #8 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 04:16:20 PM »

Quote from: Prismo on Aug 10, 2005, 11:18:53 PM

We had Skinny's front dampner off ... Note the dental pick buried in the rubber layer sandwiched between the metal.

Great! Now go buy a new one!

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #9 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 04:21:33 PM »

Why buy a new one? The rubber isnt coming out which would indicate a bad balancer and being poked with a dental pick sure as hell isnt going to hurt it any.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #10 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 04:22:35 PM »

Well what you don't see is under that layer of rubber is a highly sophisticated grid of electromagnetic wires that send out a pulse to the flux accumulator every time the engine turns a revolution. Thus charging the flux capacitor and we all know if your flux capacitor is not chargeing your muffler barrings will shrink.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #11 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 04:26:17 PM »

LOL Oh yea I had forgotten about that...

Hyena · « **Reply #12 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 05:17:22 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Aug 11, 2005, 04:22:35 PM

Well what you don't see is under that layer of rubber is a highly sophisticated grid of electromagnetic wires that send out a pulse to the flux accumulator every time the engine turns a revolution. Thus charging the flux capacitor and we all know if your flux capacitor is not chargeing your muffler barrings will shrink.

I didn't know toyota's had muffler bearings. It that why my truck runs shitty? Do i need new muffler bearings? Where to they go?

Toyminator · « **Reply #13 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 05:26:55 PM »

Quote from: Prismo on Aug 10, 2005, 11:18:53 PM

We had Skinny's front dampner off so I took pictures (with my crummy camera) to show you unbelievers the "front pulley" as some of you guys call it really is a dampner/harmonic balancer. Note the dental pick buried in the rubber layer sandwiched between the metal.

Looks photochopped to me. Nice try though.

Duffil · « **Reply #14 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 05:31:45 PM »

Thank you for posting pics, Prismo. I went through this months ago with these guys, but I don't have a camera to prove that is is a balancer/dampener, not just a pulley.

Prismo · « **Reply #15 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 05:49:42 PM »

If any of the naysayers ever actually got off the internet & worked on a Toyota they would already know what I said is true

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #16 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 09:46:50 PM »

Bu bu but this is my wheeling grounds.... I watch a lot of 4 wheeler tv and junk so Im almost an expert..

kneedownnate · « **Reply #17 on:** Aug 11, 2005, 11:48:11 PM »

Aw cmon WT, it's not like you don't never work on anything......wait a sec....that's a double negative....so I guess it's true, cause it seems like you're always workin on something......And who's the guy with 4 parts trucks, buyers lined up for parts of them and 2 he hasn't aquired yet and never actually does anything with them. Guess that'd be me, guess I never actually work on anything!!

kyle_22r · « **Reply #18 on:** Aug 12, 2005, 09:33:06 PM »

i know that sure doesn't look like my front pulley. mine has holes in it and is a chunk of cast/forged steel.

reklund5 · « **Reply #19 on:** Aug 12, 2005, 09:38:31 PM »

Since we're on the subject:

Anyone ever seen one where rubber damper has broken and allowed the inner/outer pieces of the pulley to spin? A customer bought their truck into work a while back, and could'nt get it to run after doing his own timing chain. Dude lined everything up thinking the crank was at 0* when it was at like 25*. Took a little while to figure that one out...

Ryan

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #20 on:** Aug 13, 2005, 03:30:03 AM »

From what Ive seen the early setups used a straight up pulley. Starting with the second gen (re) Ive noticed them using a true balancer.

BUDDERS · « **Reply #21 on:** Aug 13, 2005, 09:08:36 AM »

I see the ones that come apart every once in a while at work. They make a light chirping noise with the engine running and the engine does run rougher when the rubber is split. It's kinda funny to watch the timing mark jump all over when you have a timing light on it. I've never heard of anyone doing their own timing chain and not notice that their front pulley was in two pieces, but could see were this would case a major problem. Tell me this dumb arse bent all his valves. LOL

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #22 on:** Aug 13, 2005, 09:20:23 AM »

Prismo i have to hand it to ya , that is a harmonic balancer,

are you sure it came off a toy?? honestly, ive worked on more 20R and 22R motors than i could count with my boots off, and i have never seen one like that, a chevy inline 6 yes, but a 2xR never, but you say its off a 22re??

recklund, when did they change to a harmonic balancer, like what year??

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #23 on:** Aug 13, 2005, 11:34:54 AM »

yes that is my balancer and it came off a 22ret. its now going on a 22re. but its is 100% part of the 22r series and is a harmonic balancer

KYOTA · « **Reply #24 on:** Aug 13, 2005, 06:22:26 PM »

Damn I think I need a new prescription

grumpy1@netptc.net · « **Reply #25 on:** Aug 13, 2005, 11:38:35 PM »

you guys have way to much spare time to waste on stuff like this i got 4 of these balancers/pulleys they are both and yes the 20 r is different but its also balanced to the crank -glad your not working on my trucks- well i gotta go change the air in my tires cya

reklund5 · « **Reply #26 on:** Aug 14, 2005, 04:49:48 PM »

Glen- I've no idea when the went from a steel pulley to a damper...but my 84 has a damper on it from the factory. I'd GUESS that the damper was added when things switched over from 20 to 22R engines.

Ryan

kyle_22r · « **Reply #27 on:** Aug 14, 2005, 08:16:48 PM »

well, the '82 celica 22R bottom end in my truck has a steel pulley, so that nixes the 20R-22R changeover

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