Author Topic: SPOOL IN THE FRONT? (Read 7358 times)

4DEES · « **on:** Apr 14, 2005, 05:25:11 PM »

I am getting ready to swap in a 3/4 ton 8-lug dana 44 in the front of my toy, I was going to run a detroit tru-trac, but afer seeing one on a buddy's rig I totally changed my mind. I would run a full locker in the axle but too expensive, so I am concidering a spool, but somebody told me that it would be too hard to turn. I will be running hy-steer. is anyone on here running a spool, or know anybody running a spool? is it hard to turn on the trail/rocks?I dont use it on the streets so thats not an issue. any info would be greatly appreciated, thanx!

$Beer Chug\'n$

oddball · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 14, 2005, 06:56:47 PM »

Why dont you just weld it? Alot of dudes run a spool or Lincoln locker up front with no problems. You could also run a ram steering setup to make it easier to turn

IronClad · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 14, 2005, 07:05:18 PM »

hope your powersteering its in shape. i run a welded front with 37s and i dont notice it unless my powersteering fluid starts to heat up and fade or my lines burst lol. Id suggest doing ram assist to really help out especially since you are trying to turn a aired down 40x18" wide tire.

4DEES · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 12:46:02 AM »

well, right now I'm taking my yota apart but, I have been wheeling on 40's for a little over a yearand guess what? my truck has no power steering!so I'm used to yanking on the wheel when out wheeling, I would like it to be softer though

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 06:58:06 AM »

You must have big muscles!!!

4DEES · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 07:57:03 AM »

:muscles:LOL!

scheid6996 · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 01:56:32 PM »

no no dont spool it like when ur wheelen the only way to turn is by unlocking one of ur hubs, and if this truck is gone B on the street ull never make it anywhere, jus leave it open diff or get a locker, no spool

blackdiamond · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 03:41:43 PM »

Quote from: scheid6996 on Apr 15, 2005, 01:56:32 PM

no no dont spool it like when ur wheelen the only way to turn is by unlocking one of ur hubs, and if this truck is gone B on the street ull never make it anywhere, jus leave it open diff or get a locker, no spool

I'm not in favor of a front spool, but unless the hubs are locked in it shouldn't matter on the street in 2wd. Twin stick the beast if you want to make it turn easier. I have a buddy running detroits f/r in a Blazer and doesn't have a problem, different wheelbase and track width I realize.

whiteman · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 04:15:56 PM »

I vote No! Who cares about how hard it is to drive. I would not even think about spooling a 44. on 40's that's carnage waiting to happen.

notajeep · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 04:32:34 PM »

I run a spool in the front after breaking 2 ez lockers. Yes.. it can be hard to turn..... if you are in 4wd on pavement. other wise..I have never had a problem.

Even on the slick rock at moab. It WAS a pain before I had power steering.....I also added a tranny cooler and plumed it in line to the low pressure side of the steering box when I converted it over because I have heard of people having problems with it overheating running a front locker. So far no problems. If I had excess money

I would run an arb or an e-locker...But I don't. As far as on the road in 2wd, it is not an issue if you unlock your hubs.....You do unlock your hubs in 2wd on the road right??

I say: run a spool (or weld it...same thing) And don't look back. You can spent more on a detroit or arb...But for those of us who arn't made on money......

scheid6996 · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:19:19 PM »

true but u cant go fast off road in 4wd tho, and unless u jus rock crawl then dont do a spool, and u dont even have power steering do u?

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:24:57 PM »

no he does have power steering, as he already stated

scheid6996 · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:26:15 PM »

o sry i thought i read he said he didnt

mudmaster · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:40:37 PM »

Quote from: oddball on Apr 14, 2005, 06:56:47 PM

Why dont you just weld it? Alot of dudes run a spool or Lincoln locker up front with no problems. You could also run a ram steering setup to make it easier to turn

i've got a buddy with 36's and a 350 and a welded 3/4 ton 8 lug 44 and he just broke 2 outer and 1 inner axle

scheid6996 · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:42:27 PM »

wut the hell was hedoing? raceing in 4wd on the street? were they stockaxles?

mudmaster · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:43:25 PM »

just wheelin on a fairly mild part of the trail

scheid6996 · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:45:07 PM »

mud? rock?

mudmaster · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:47:32 PM »

more like wet dirt. i'm thinkin all the previous abuse they've taken took them out finally

whiteman · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:47:56 PM »

I believe it. My cousin had a full size .44 in his cj-5 with a 302 auto and he broke his axle 5 times in the year and a half he had it playing out on the nacheas trail.

scheid6996 · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:49:02 PM »

o i c, c us my friend is runnen a 400+ hp 350 and a d44 and he breaks axles, but hardly or unless hes doing something stupid like trying to crowl over a tracter tire

mudmaster · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:50:52 PM »

bad luck?

scheid6996 · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:51:49 PM »

no, i think its more showing off

mudmaster · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:52:38 PM »

i'm thinkin too much skinny pedal

oddball · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 05:59:22 PM »

Quote from: YOTAon40s on Apr 14, 2005, 05:25:11 PM

I dont use it on the streets so thats not an issue.

I dont think he is going to use it on the road

scheid6996 · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 11:20:13 PM »

o, haha didnt C that

Rockhoppa · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 11:42:30 PM »

Ive got a buddy that ran a 44 out of a dodge with 38 sx's,mini-spool, and hydro-assist in the front his yota. Broke every single time he went out, 1 hub,3 inners,2 outers, and 2 u-joints. Than sold it. I told him but he didnt listen, So I say run the spool. And when you start snap'n shafts, make sure you post pic's. I like pic's of carnage.

86 4runner · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 11:51:37 PM »

Quote from: skinny_pedal on Apr 15, 2005, 05:24:57 PM

no he does have power steering, as he already stated

Quote from: scheid6996 on Apr 15, 2005, 05:26:15 PM

o sry i thought i read he said he didnt

you did

Quote from: YOTAon40s on Apr 15, 2005, 12:46:02 AM

well, right now I'm taking my yota apart but, I have been wheeling on 40's for a little over a yearand guess what? my truck has no power steering! so I'm used to yanking on the wheel when out wheeling, I would like it to be softer though

scheid6996 · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 16, 2005, 12:27:34 AM »

thankz saen, i though i was right!

4DEES · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 16, 2005, 12:31:30 AM »

hey "notajeep", sounds good, thanx for the info. and like I had said in previouse posts, I dont use it on the street at all so the street handleing makes no differance to me, I got a daily driver so I'ts all good. oh, and if I do go with the dana 44 I wont be running stock stuff on it, 5:13's,moser axle shafts,longfield dana 44 u-joints. and I do not have power steering right now but at the same time that I'm doing my axles I'm going hy-steer(w/ power steering of course). so basically I dont use it on the street at all, as long as I can turn on the trail/rocks, it's all good.thanx for all the 411 guys! $Beer Chug\'n$

scheid6996 · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 16, 2005, 12:33:20 AM »

dude do a locker, my boss spooled his d44 and now hes hates it and is gona take it out and put in a locker

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