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Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« on: May 16, 2016, 11:38:37 AM »
I'm wanting to do something a little different with a 3RZ than I've seen here or elsewhere. I have a 1984 pickup that I've made a crawler out of and I need a bit more power. I would like to use a 3RZ from a 1996 T100 so I would have the right oil pan setup. Also this year model would have a distributor that I would like to convert to a mechanical distributor to do away with the electronics. I want to run this on propane.

I have searched everywhere and haven't found that anyone has done any of this. Can anyone here give me any advice?

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2016, 12:27:44 PM »
I wanted to make a carb 3RZ really bad.  I would start by dissecting a 3RZ distributor and an old 22r distributor with a vac advance and see if you can build a 3RZ distributor with a vac advance. This is going to be the critical, is it possible or not, piece.   Everything else would be cake.

If you do this we have to have a thread about it with a bunch of photos.
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2016, 12:49:36 PM »
There are a few carburetors on 3rz google will help you find them. What they did on ignition I'm not sure of.
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2016, 01:56:04 PM »
I had thought about trying to blend a 3RZ distributor with a 22R. Maybe I can make it work. I'll take pictures as I go forward. I need to find a 3RZ distributor to start with, I've got plenty of 22R distributors. Anyone got a 3RZ distributor that they would donate to the cause?

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 02:01:33 PM »
I had thought about trying to blend a 3RZ distributor with a 22R. Maybe I can make it work. I'll take pictures as I go forward. I need to find a 3RZ distributor to start with, I've got plenty of 22R distributors. Anyone got a 3RZ distributor that they would donate to the cause?

Where ya located, I think I have 1 or 2 lying around
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 02:22:58 PM »
 That would be awesome I'm in North Georgia. Does this forum have messaging of some sort?

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 02:30:54 PM »
I think I found it. Check to see if you got an email.

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2016, 02:45:08 PM »
I think I found it. Check to see if you got an email.

should be there in a few days
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2016, 02:47:08 PM »
Hey man thanks. What do I owe you?

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2016, 02:49:55 PM »
nothing  :thumbs:  good luck with the idea
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2016, 04:10:55 PM »
Thanks alot. I'll keep everyone informed on how it goes.

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2016, 04:20:31 PM »
So does anybody have any ideas on hooking up propane on a 3RZ?

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2016, 07:43:56 PM »
So does anybody have any ideas on hooking up propane on a 3RZ?
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2016, 10:33:07 PM »
I wanted to make a carb 3RZ really bad.

Huh... I've been wanting to make one really good, but you know what they say... different strokes for different strokes  :burnout:

Seriously, I've been talking with friends about doing it with either a 3rz or 5vz since before I joined the forum.  I see no reason why it couldn't be done and made to work very well. 
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 03:56:06 PM »
should be there in a few days

Got it today. That was fast.

Looks like it might be a pretty involved conversion.
I've got a couple of friends that have fabrication skills. I'll probably get some advice from them. Also I might look for something to blend with other than a 22R.

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2016, 04:44:29 PM »
A 1989 Corolla 1.6L distributor looks alot like the 3RZ distributor. It has a vaccum can so I assume that is is mechanical. Has anybody had there hands on one of these?

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2016, 09:34:31 AM »
Propane carb.

Or you can use the EFI throttle body as well.  Just would need to plug the injector holes.
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #17 on: Jun 05, 2016, 05:31:48 PM »
Ok, I've heard that early 3RZ's in Australia were carbureted and that they had mechanical distributors.

What I haven't been able to find out is just what years and models they were in.

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #18 on: Jun 05, 2016, 06:55:02 PM »
Here's what I think is the part number for a complete mechanical 3RZ distributor.

19050-75031

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #19 on: Jun 12, 2016, 04:44:47 AM »
We had 2rz and 3rz carb setups on Hiace Vans over here in Aus.


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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #20 on: Jun 12, 2016, 07:12:56 AM »
Any pictures of this set up?
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #21 on: Jan 19, 2017, 04:42:01 PM »
Aus_Mallcrwlr I sent you a PM.

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #22 on: Nov 06, 2017, 10:03:57 AM »
Ok, I'm gonna be "that guy" now.

How did this go? Make any head way?
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #23 on: Nov 06, 2017, 10:57:19 AM »
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #24 on: Nov 06, 2017, 11:00:47 AM »
quick google search shows a 2rz (carb) 89-97 hiace with the "-E" version replacing it in 98
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #26 on: Nov 06, 2017, 12:00:13 PM »
Good find Dave.

Matt, I've been googling all morning. I haven't found a definite answer on if the distributor pt# 19050-75031 will work on a dizzy 2/3rz. I dont want to gamble the $350 on the dizzy just to try it.
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #27 on: Nov 06, 2017, 03:40:55 PM »
Find a friend who has a metal lathe and mill. Then bring the two parts over and pester them to death.

I'd offer to use my metal lathe and mill to make it work right, except I'm a little busy for that kind of trial-and-error project.

Good luck!

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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #28 on: Nov 07, 2017, 05:19:35 AM »
Thanks Lewis. I don't know if I should start a new thread on this or not. But I found the dizzy on alli express for much less so I ordered it and am going to grab a 2rz from a friend with a toyota salvage yard and see what happens.
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Re: Mechanical 3RZ on propane?
« Reply #29 on: Nov 19, 2017, 03:24:30 PM »
Somebody took my idea! :willynilly: It might be a lot easier to eliminate the distributor and do a EDIS crank fired ignition like I did on my 22r. Requires an ignition module, coil and crank sensor from a 90s Ford Escort or any other Ford vehicle that uses an EDIS4. Also requires a 36-1 trigger wheel for the crank sensor which is probably the most difficult part but it's not that complicated. A Megajolt ignition controller from Autosport labs controls ignition timing and can be easily tuned for your timing needs. It may sound complicated but I've done two 22r propane setups with EDIS and it works great and is more responsive that a dist. all the parts are usually under $300.
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