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I got this from a girl on myspace
« on: Apr 14, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »
No, not the clap  :slap:  She posted an anti gun control bulletin.  Don't quote me on it's accuracy, but if it is accurate it offers a good insight into the ignorance surrounding the idea of gun bans or gun control:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.



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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.



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China established gun control in 1935.

From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents,unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.



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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.



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Cambodia established gun control in 1956.

From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.



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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control:56 million.



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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:


Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.

2
percent.




Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.

6
percent.




Australia-wide, armed robberies are up
44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!


In the state of Victoria alone,homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.

Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!



While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms,
this has changed drastically upward in the past 12
months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their
prey is unarmed.





There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.




You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear
politicians disseminating this information.





Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.




Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.



With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.



During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!


If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.




The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.





SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!



IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.



RIP KYOTA

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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #1 on: Apr 14, 2009, 09:41:31 PM »
wow, well whether or not all the stats are totally accurate it still puts gun control in a different perspective. makes it even easier to understand.
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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #2 on: Apr 14, 2009, 11:06:05 PM »
This gives me chills.  Here I am stuck with an Ak-47 and no ammo!
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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #3 on: Apr 14, 2009, 11:10:50 PM »
That's funny.

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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #4 on: Apr 14, 2009, 11:17:23 PM »
x 2 on the AK

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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #5 on: Apr 15, 2009, 04:57:30 PM »
Though, to be completely serious here, all of this blather does nothing.  See, the real issue is what the courts think about it all and how they define the term "infringed".   

Legally it is usually interpreted as "removed" or "no longer an option".

As long as the courts think that it means this, then nothing matters and they will make more and more laws that nobody can do anything about.   

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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #6 on: Apr 15, 2009, 10:02:09 PM »
Though, to be completely serious here, all of this blather does nothing.  See, the real issue is what the courts think about it all and how they define the term "infringed".   

Legally it is usually interpreted as "removed" or "no longer an option".

As long as the courts think that it means this, then nothing matters and they will make more and more laws that nobody can do anything about.   

Ah, not true.  our justice system is not failsafe, nor fool proof, but thankfully, it was designed with an appeals process.  It may be a long a difficult road, but appeals can and do win out.  And thankfully, the highest court in our nation is mostly conservative right now. 

It is when you think nothing more can be done that you have truly given up hope, and that is when you have truly lost.
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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #7 on: Apr 16, 2009, 08:43:52 AM »
the stats are actually a few years old, violent crime rates in australia and britian have gone much, much higher since. last year the brits were rallying to get their guns back, admitting they made a horrible mistake (gov didnt listen of course) and warning the US citizens to not make the same mistake. only big news show here in the states to cover it was fox
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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #8 on: Apr 18, 2009, 12:49:44 PM »
:haha:  Nate you had me scared :ack:
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Re: I got this from a girl on myspace
« Reply #9 on: Apr 20, 2009, 03:35:54 PM »
Ah, not true.  our justice system is not failsafe, nor fool proof, but thankfully, it was designed with an appeals process.  It may be a long a difficult road, but appeals can and do win out.  And thankfully, the highest court in our nation is mostly conservative right now. 

It is when you think nothing more can be done that you have truly given up hope, and that is when you have truly lost.

True, but the point is that the real issue lies with the courts and not the politicians.  If we can get parity restored for that one term, then it means an entire WAD of laws get expunged or at the least, no more can be made easily.

 
 
 
 
 

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