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Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« on: Jan 27, 2009, 10:02:50 PM »
I'm not sure exactly how to cut the shift fork or how much to cut off, It wont go into 4wheel low it does go into 4wheel high, 2wheel and nutural. I'm droping the trany and t-case this week but dont know what to do after that. my friend said he had to do the same thing because he had a diffrent t-case and trany so the shift fork was to long. I also dont know how to tell for sure what trany I have, is there an easy way to tell? its not the stock w56 because the shifter and t-case shifter are moved forward towards the dash 2 inches further than stock, because the boots wont even come close to fitting. got any ideas??

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #1 on: Jan 29, 2009, 10:51:31 PM »
Maybe I'm a bit confused. I'm assuming 'cause of your sig it's an 85 4Runner.

did you just buy this rig, and figured out it wouldn't shift into 4lo, or is this a new development?

What makes you think you have to cut the shifter forks? Are they binding on something? could be they're just rusty and stuck. I'd pull it apart before I start planning on cutting anything. Try messing with it while it's on the ground, and see if you can figure out why it won't shift. Could just be the wrong shifter as well.

sounds like you may have the R150 tranny. I'm not a tranny expert, but I do know the shifter position is different, and the floor board needs to be cut in order to make it work. Not sure if there are other trannies that would bolt up the same way. Someone who knows more about it may be able to give a better answer. You could also look at some of the pics on Marlins site [link] http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmission/rebuilt-complete[/link] and see if you can figure it out.
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #2 on: Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:03 PM »
Yea I just got this truck about a month ago or less, and he told me it would no go into 4wheel low. He did now know why yet he didnt have enought time to look into it but he just but the trany and tranfercase into it. My friend said he had to cut the shift fork or somthing im not sure what that all entails yet ill probly just do what u said and pull it down and look at it today and see if there is somthing funny going on or what. But if it is a missmatch trans and t-case then i guess my question is how do i know what exact trany and t-case i have so i can ask someone if thoes do not work together with out cutting somthing or doing something to make them work.

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #3 on: Jan 31, 2009, 12:27:59 PM »
what year is your truck and what engine do you have? also is your trans alum or cast iron? really what needs to be done is just pull the case off the back of the tranny and see if it goes into 4 low without it being on the tranny and that will tell you much more...
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #4 on: Jan 31, 2009, 12:34:46 PM »
Its an 85 and it has a 22re and Its aluminum, Now is it normal that the 4x4 shifter is on the trany and not on the t-case??

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #5 on: Jan 31, 2009, 01:07:51 PM »
Hey man I think its a G52 or G54 what is that out of?????

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #6 on: Jan 31, 2009, 01:33:57 PM »
the g series transmissions had both shifters mounted to the tranny, its called a forward shifting t case configurations as opposed to what the w series t case had which is a top shift....

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #7 on: Jan 31, 2009, 01:52:29 PM »
do you have duals or just a single case cause if they are duals you can defiantly have this problem if the shift fork wasn't cut down. if the guy put a top shift t-case on the forward shift tranny and just caped the shifter hole on the t-case then you could have this problem cause the shift rods are way different.
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #8 on: Jan 31, 2009, 02:18:33 PM »
yeah the t-case does have another spot under the console that is caped and he used to run duel cases.

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #9 on: Jan 31, 2009, 02:19:09 PM »
and are the g serious tranys :pokinit: are are they ok??

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #10 on: Jan 31, 2009, 02:36:52 PM »
how do u post a pic on your profile

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #11 on: Jan 31, 2009, 02:38:53 PM »
there not as strong as the w-series but if your only gunna run a single case it will do the job. do you know if he use the case as a top shift or if he used it as a forward shift?
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #12 on: Jan 31, 2009, 03:08:43 PM »
naw I dont, I just pulled the trany and t-case now how can i check it out to see what is going on with it not going into 4 wheel low and is there anything i should look at to see if this thing is junk I mean i shifted throught all the gears and it seemed ok, and I got it into 4wheel high.

U suggest anything wile it is out that I should do to it. ??

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #13 on: Jan 31, 2009, 03:16:41 PM »
you could just separate the tranny and t-case and see if the shift forks are hitting something
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #14 on: Jan 31, 2009, 03:42:52 PM »
alright cool thanks man

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #15 on: Jan 31, 2009, 05:25:17 PM »
Hey man so I split the t-case and the trany and its the freakin' 4x4 shifter bracket on top of the trany with the 4 bolts that wont let the arm push the fork far enough into 4 wheel low so i dont know if i should just grind the top plate with the 4 bolts back so it will alow it to move more or if there is somthing i should buy like a diffrent plate and shifter????

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #16 on: Jan 31, 2009, 05:26:38 PM »
also the w56 was available in fwd shift too.

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #17 on: Jan 31, 2009, 05:35:04 PM »
if you can clearance it so that it will go into 4low then thats what i would do but it does sound like you have a miss matched tranny and t-case.
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #18 on: Jan 31, 2009, 05:38:20 PM »
yea thats what im thinking to, And thats what im guna do and see if that works I was thinking if the top plate off the w56 and shifter would bolt up to my g4 then i could just get one of thoes....but i dont know were do you live 80_yota?? around kent seattle??

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #19 on: Jan 31, 2009, 06:00:35 PM »
no i am an hour south of portland
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #20 on: Feb 01, 2009, 01:04:20 AM »
no i am an hour south of portland
so what town u in? you have got to be close to me I am in albany
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #21 on: Feb 01, 2009, 01:50:48 PM »
so what town u in? you have got to be close to me I am in albany
im in silverton
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #22 on: Feb 02, 2009, 12:04:17 PM »
im in silverton
oh nice! did ya get the t-case figured out or what?
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #23 on: Feb 19, 2009, 10:05:56 PM »
Hmmm this seems jury-rigged. I'm not aware that the 85 came with the G-series ( I could be wrong however), but it certainly sounds like a mismatch. I hate rigging stuff, cause it doesn't always work the way we want, and it may also change the structural integrity of the case, which could lead to failure. As I recall, the G-series is a bit weaker than the W-series. It also sounds like you have the later series case. If it were mine, I'd replace the tranny and put the W-series in, as it's a direct bolt in. Besides, if you grind the tranny case, and it doesn't work, you now have wasted a tranny that someone else could have used.

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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #24 on: Feb 22, 2009, 02:42:46 PM »
hey did you ever get this to work or figure out what was goin on?
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #25 on: Mar 09, 2009, 01:55:10 AM »
ya I was wondering the same thing???
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Re: Cutting the shift fork in the t-case....
« Reply #26 on: Mar 10, 2009, 02:18:17 PM »
This might be an odd question. But is the 4Runner have a boddy lift? if so the lift can cause the shifters to be moved and the transfer case not to go into 4 wheel low. That is why many people sell an offset shifter.
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