Topic: engine woes

[burnyota]

alright..so basically i am a jackass when it comes to engines and transmissions..
-here is my delima.  I throughout a bearing in the bottom end of my 22r motor, no biggie...i have a spare engine that I could put in..well, I pulled the engine out of my truck and loaded it up along with my spare motor, that is supposed to be in good shape(or so I was told) and dropped both of the engines off at the machine shop to have them checked out..they told me it would be a wk to tear them down and check both of em' out and about 3weeks to build..this was a month ago, and nada yet except for the tear don. I called them today and now they are saying both of the engines are already at 40 over and the cranks are at 20/22?? so both of my engines are shot,(from what they are saying)along with the crank. So, they are looking at another block to start with..I am guessing that 40 over is to much, is this right and that the crank has already been machined down. I wanted to do some balancing and port and polishing to get some more power..what do ya'll think? should i pick up my crap and head elswhere or stick it out? the engine was to be built so that I could go to the Chilie Challenge, and i told them this a month ago .
arg! what should I do?
Like I said, i am slowly learning about this engine stuff, so any help is appreciated.

[burnyota [OP]]

is 40 over normal or is it to much?

[kyle_22r]

.040 over means it's definitely rebuilt at least once.  it's 1mm bigger than stock -- in a 22R i think you can go all the way .060 over before you start really running into problems.

[79coyotefrg]

LCengineering sells  94mm pistons,  thats .080 oversize   i run a .060 set

[79coyotefrg]

i say go pick you parts up and find another shop,   did you record the serial numbers so you know that your getting your blocks back

[toymech]

If ya need nice parts to start with,check out this site. 22re.com. The guy is very good with 22re's. Give the site a look over,I personally found his parts very good. My runner is still runnin. I wouldnt use his gaskets though,personally I think theyre cheap crap,use FEL-Pro gaskets wherever you can. Just for the record,dont use an RV cam=your fuel mileage might lead you to think you have a hole in your tank. Good luck with the engine    Mike

[burnyota [OP]]

unfortunatly I didn't write any numbers down from the block, guess that I might should have done that before i dropped em off..its kinda funny though because I didn't think that the engine in my truck had ever been rebuilt..So when they bore it over to say 40 or 60, the cylinder walls become thinner, so will that create a potential problem later down the road with cracking of the block and heat?  I was planning to run 11:1 compression and propane..gracias

[toymech]

 If youd like to know if your engine has been rebuilt,check the bottom of your bearings. All rebuilt engines that have oversized bearings due to an undersized crank will have the bearing size indicated on the flip side of the bearing. Im sure most of you guys building engines here know this stuff by now. 22r engines are getting harder to come by in the junkyards these days=cause theyre all still running. lol. later   Mike

[79coyotefrg]

call  LCEngineering.com  they have 11.1 and 12 to 1 pistons in a .080 size they are pricy     but there good. just get the forged

since i solved my leaky head issue  i havent had any problems at all with my block,  look at my signature below,  i have 93.5 mm aka  keithblack .060 oversize pistons

those 22 water jackets are really thick

[burnyota [OP]]

cool,  i think that I will do that next time I am in town..i live like 3hrs away from the machine shop. Its good to know that though so i can double check to see if has been rebuilt. 

[burnyota [OP]]

ok..so update on my engine .....
---delivered two 22R engines to the machine shop and they arn;t rebuildable(supposidly), and the machine shop supplied a 3rd block that was good..
--They knew this engine was to be running a 20R head...well they have allready started on the block and its not the right one!! it is the older, shorter stlye 22R block and i am in cahoots about what to do!! Can this shorter block still be used with the 20r head?? what are my options??

[burnyota [OP]]

opps..i meant they are using the "newer" 85 and up block....but i supplied them with the correct blocks for this setup, shouldn't they have checked this out before starting the machine work and hot dipping??

i am pissed right now       going to drink    and smack   to make me feel better

[79coyotefrg]

yes  they should get you a block the same as the block  you brought them,  i thought you had taken them the other block

i just wonder if they told you they were junk so you would just say oh well keep em,  and they were all   because you didnt know

tell them  you have GOT to have the early block

[79coyotefrg]

what year 22 did you order the timing kit for??

the money you have in it should tell you.  if you ordered the timing kit for the 85 block then go with the 22 head and some 12.1 weisico pistons

[burnyota [OP]]

going to call them and see what they can do..need more imput PLEASE!!!!