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add-a-leaf
« on: Mar 25, 2010, 12:19:36 AM »
Has anyone used these i was just wondering if it would help my rig because my front leaf springs are arched negativly.

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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #1 on: Mar 25, 2010, 01:21:44 AM »
They tend to create a hard ride and can break springs. That being said I have done them front and rear plus a shackle lift for a quick pick me up for larger tires.
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #2 on: Mar 25, 2010, 02:43:18 AM »
thanks for the input

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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #3 on: Mar 25, 2010, 08:03:46 AM »
They tend to create a hard ride and can break springs. That being said I have done them front and rear plus a shackle lift for a quick pick me up for larger tires.

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I had a similar problem with my fronts being negative arched when I bought my truck.  I added the add-a-leaf to the front as a temp fix until I can afford my Marlin springs.  It definitely makes for a rough ride on the street and the flex is hindered as well.
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #4 on: Mar 25, 2010, 10:47:48 PM »
I made one for the rear of my 2wd.  I took a full leaf from the same truck, cut off the ends, beveled them so they wouldn't cut into the other leafs and put them just under the top leaf.  I gained a positive arch with minimal difference in ride.
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #5 on: Mar 25, 2010, 11:35:28 PM »
cool thanks i am thinking of doing this just as a temp fix right now. thanks for the input

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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #6 on: Mar 26, 2010, 04:18:46 PM »
Do as kneedownnate suggested, and don't waste the money on after market add-a-leafs.  You should be able to rebuild both of the fronts, even add in some lift for less than $30(used leaf pack and 2 new center pins).  You can usually gain about 1" of lift/extra leaf, and as long as you use the longest leaves, you shouldn't stiffen the ride too much.
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #7 on: Mar 26, 2010, 04:49:03 PM »
A much better suggestion from 'Nate, those market add-a-leafs suck. Downey made an excellent "extra leaf" that was a long leaf and not just a load leaf, but sadly they are gone now.
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #8 on: Mar 27, 2010, 02:41:01 AM »
add a ;eaf is as good as a feef in october... on the grownd and getting raked up into a trash pile. just add your own leaf. like it was said. use a longer leaf from a stock toyota rear pack. add it in and you will regain some of your spring rating and a little ride hight. dont be bashfull you might want two. much cheaper than buying a kit. and you would hate yourself if you used an aftermarket add a leaf. it will destroy the truck.

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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #9 on: Mar 27, 2010, 04:40:18 PM »
You also don't have to use Toyota leaves, almost any set of leaves you find can be used.  I like to use the chevy packs(IIRC they are about 54" long), they are a little wider, but not enough to cause problems w/u-bolts, and a little thicker at 3/8" thick.
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #10 on: Mar 27, 2010, 07:22:59 PM »
stay away from the leaves that are 3/8 inch thick, Ive used 2wd chevy S10 springs and 2wd F150 springs as add a leafs, (1/4 inch thick) keep them as long as possible and you'll be fine

i had some cheap "add a leaf"  a long time ago,  there were about 24 inches end to end and about a 1/2 inch thick,  rode like hell and made the stock springs form a W
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Re: add-a-leaf
« Reply #11 on: Mar 29, 2010, 07:48:31 PM »
The 3/8" main supports about 230lbs.  One cut to fit under each of the Toyota mains for the front shouldn't stiffen the ride at all, especially given the current state of his front leaf springs.  I run a 3/8" thick spring under the rear main in both of my 4x4's, to carry the extra weight, and it was only after I added the 2nd 3/8" spring to the '91(sagged too much when loaded w/gear) that it stiffened up the ride enough to notice it when empty. 
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