Topic: 20R motor in a baja bug!!!

[Dezertdog]

Howdy!!! I am new to this site. And from what Ive seen its a great site, I am installing a 20R motoor in my baja bug. In a volkswagon the pick up coil in the distributor is wired staright to the coil, On a 79 celica motor you need the ignition control module. My question is can I get around using the stock brain??? Maybe a aftermarket ignition module and a distributor??? Any help would be great....

[FIREBALL]

Wish I could help, but don't know the answer to your ?. Maybe BigMike will post up soon.
Are you sure you wouldn't like to a Supercharged MR2 motor in there? I've got one of those with the wiring and ecu.

[Dezertdog [OP]]

Thanx fireball, But I dropped some coins,  had this one balanced and blueprinted, I kept it mostly stock, But in my bug it should haul,Im going from a stock 1600 VW motor to this. I was told to go with MSD ignition box and distributor, I just want to make sure I dont have to have the stock box also... I dont think I will but I just want to be sure...

[79coyotefrg]

are you talking about the ignitor box,  thats attached to the coil??  it acts like a transformer to generate a more powerful spark

never seen a 79 anything yota with a "control module"

[Matty]

blah blah blah i dont really know very much, but all i know is 

lets see it!!

[kneedownnate]

  check his avatar for a sneak peek looks cool to me

[Ramrod]

I took out the stock ignitor and am running an msd ignition box on my 22r.  It was really easy to wire in and runs great.  I also have the stock ignitor if you wanna buy it

[mr4x42u]

I run a 3tc in my sand rail and its using the ignighter,,its a must with the toy motor to get the pick up off the dist...Mine was petty simple to wire,,but not sure about wireing the msd box..

[Dezertdog [OP]]

Hey thanks for all the help, I ended up ordering a new distributor and msd box, I cant wait to get it done, Ill post some pics pretty soon, Again thanks for all the help...

[kyle_22r]

msd should work good!  what year 20R are you running?  if it's older than '77 or '78, please tell us you're using a distributor off a late model 20R or a 22R with electronic ignition, points suck!  the toyota distributors with electronic ignition are super simple and unbelievably reliable, should be a good pair with the MSD box!

[Dezertdog [OP]]

Thanx for the info, The motor is out of a 79 celica, And I agree with the points, They suck. I went to electronis ignition in my Volkswagon motor and it worked really well. I should have it done in time for the poker run at the end of Oct. Hopefully well get to see what it will do.

[79coyotefrg]

[kneedownnate]

I told my bug loving coworker about this project and he replied, "what, does he wanna do wheelies with it?".  Kinda made me chuckle.  I love the idea but would have started with a 22r block and made a hybrid, or gone efi for the cool(er) factor!

[Dezertdog [OP]]

Im not too worried about doing wheelies. My chassis is extended in the front 5 inches and the rear is 3 inches longer through the trailing arms. and the front is widened 8 inches and the rear 6 inches. I had the motor sitting on the garage floor for about 15 years, out of a wrecked celica. My VW motor has got a lot of hard off road miles on it. It would have been cheaper to go with a bigger VW motor, But then I lose the reliability. And I obviously like to fabricate so here I am. I hope to have it fired up this weekend, Im waiting on the new aluminum radiator, PICS WILL FOLLOW SOON...    

[Dezertdog [OP]]

And as far as the EFI The less wires the better, And I can work on it.

[Jase]

Do you have any parts you want to sell off the old motor?  I have a 71 super with the stock motor and would like to give it a bit of a kick but not loose to much in gas mileage.