yeap it sucked getting the manifold off. turns out it was a missing exhaust stud on #4 cylinder and no gaskets on the heat sheild so merry xmas to my buddy who needs the manifold. got new gaskets and stud and now its so nice and quiet haha. taking it to a shop to diag hopefully for the last time and get a passing test. thank god i only have to do this once, gotta love amador couty smog