Rufus, see picture below, has been through a puppy obedience class and will start the next level in January. He listens really well most of the time. He is finally getting "down" and often skips the "sit" out of laziness knowing what comes next. I really believe that the vast majority of rotts never have the episode that this thread was based on, BUT that doesn't mean owners don't need to be careful about allowing a situation to develop and to be realistic about the potential.