got ya, i was lookin at high lifts the other day at sportsmans warehouse and it looks like high lift kinda cheapened their jack compared to the old style jack. How that winch kit works is a good idea though. If you've ever used that jack as a winch then you know what it's like to run out of jack as soon as all the slack is pulled out of the lines. I'll see if i can find it on a goggle search.