my dad has a grizzly,,I have to say its a sweet machine,,but I think the honda is bay far a better long term machine..hondas just seem to stand the test of time,,and resale better too...I own nothing but hondas,,,2000 ex 400,,86 250e4 trax and an 86 atc 250r..my next one will be a 4wd atv or a new 450r..