Yup, we had this guy come by and we talked about Crawlers for half an hour, and then we went out side to check out his "rig" and it was bone stock 4WD Van that he had just picked up. Apparently he has found out how to fit a W56 in there and he said he would be back after he swaped in a Toy 8" front axle. 8) He wants to get an Ultimate and wheel it!