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New Toyota (Tacoma rotor to SA) braking option
« on: Sep 30, 2009, 08:55:09 PM »
Saw this over on pirate and thought it was worth sharing.  http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10378882#post10378882


Tacoma Brake Mounting Kit

http://frontrangeoffroadfab.com/nfoscomm/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=136&osCsid=31e739132e7c6998ce51f1869f23c9db
« Last Edit: Oct 02, 2009, 07:36:46 PM by 79coyotefrg »
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Re: New Toyota braking option
« Reply #1 on: Sep 30, 2009, 09:11:33 PM »
i think that's cool. :)
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Re: New Toyota braking option
« Reply #2 on: Sep 30, 2009, 10:13:37 PM »
i will have a set on my 4runner in the next few weeks, it needs better brakes.  i still have the stock 84 brakes. 

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Re: New Toyota braking option
« Reply #3 on: Sep 30, 2009, 10:25:47 PM »
I was thinking about using the bigger rotors, then got further down and somebody asked.  If you're gonna do it, why not use the biggest rotors available that'll still work, which I'd assume would be tundra/sequoia rotors?  You'd hafta use bigger wheels, but since I have some cheap 35's lined up I've been looking into getting some 17" wheels if I could find some cheap enough, and they'd have to be light. 
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Re: New Toyota braking option
« Reply #4 on: Oct 02, 2009, 06:25:29 AM »
Let's focus on the product at hand guys. Brian's got a cool new idea, we don't need the vendor bashing clouding up it's release.  :cool:
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Re: New Toyota braking option
« Reply #5 on: Oct 02, 2009, 07:22:24 PM »
OMG  i think i'm in love  :eyebrow:

Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376212
We've been looking at better options for the Tacoma SAS crowd, and at how to improve braking on the older trucks as well.  We wanted replacement parts readily available anywhere, and easy to source, and no specialty machining on wear items.  This is where we ended up!  One of the best parts is SERIOUS ease of serviceability.  Not a single bearing is touched during teardown of the axle!

Features:
-Tacoma rotors (stock)
-Tacoma calipers (stock)
-86-95 IFS wheel hubs (these must have the OD turned down a bit)
-Widens the axle by 3.25 total (1.625 per side)
-Accepts solid axle locking hubs or flanges
-FROR Tacoma brake mounting kit
-Price $99

As they say pictures are worth 1000 words, so on to it!

Here's the full assembly.  This happens to be on the shop buggy, this setup is nearly a year in the running, including a full WE Rock season, King of the Hammers race, and other adventures of course!   

Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376219
The teardown procedure.  If youve EVER gotten into a Toyota front axle, you'll love this!


Remove the 2 calipers bolts, and SLIP the rotor off! 


Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376242
One thing to note, is the different brake fitting.  Tacoma calipers have a banjo, and 4runners have 10mm inverted flare.  We sell the brake lines to connect straight to the caliper as well. 

Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376254
Once the caliper and rotor is off, simply remove the locking hub dial, or drive flange cover, and the birf snap ring.

Once the cover is off, YOU REMOVE THE SPINDLE BOLTS!  This is the chunk that comes off next!  We've been affectionately referring to this as The Toyota Unit Bearing!

At this point, you can pull your shaft, change a birf, or drop out a 3rd member.  Notice, no bearing has been touched!  

Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376270
This is what the kit includes, 2 brackets, caliper bolt and lock washer, and longer spindle bolts and lock washers.  The only other thing to do is turn down the IFS wheel hubs, which we be offering to purchase straight out, or an exchange basis.

Price $99, and add in stock, off-the-shelf parts!

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How much does this change the overall width?

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Thanks for reminding me! 3.25 added to width, 2.75 from the IFS hubs, .25 from the thickness of each rotor. 1.625 per side.

Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376315
This does fit under 15" wheels, though some steel wheel may hit the caliper.  If the wheel youve got fits a stock tacoma, it would fit over these brakes, since it identical.

One thing this is allowing folks to do, is plan on these brakes, and allowing fitting of the increasingly popular 17" wheels.  But most of theose wheels are backspaced at 4.5-5.5"  Now they wont be tucked in.  For example, a 4.5 backspaced, 8.5" wide wheel, with the new FROR Tacoma brake kit, would have the same load as a stock solid axle hub, and a 8.5" wheel, with roughly 3" backspace!

Quote from: Brian Ellinger;10376593

EDIT:  As you can see this will not work with current aftermarket knuckles, only stock knuckles.

This bracket system is setup to line everything up correctly, using matched factory components, in proper location relationship caliper to rotor.



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Re: New Toyota (Tacoma rotor to SA) braking option
« Reply #6 on: Oct 02, 2009, 09:27:22 PM »
dont forget 96+ 4runners still use the strandard brake line fittings, no special fittings needed.

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Re: New Toyota (Tacoma rotor to SA) braking option
« Reply #7 on: Oct 02, 2009, 09:42:36 PM »
I was thinking about using the bigger rotors, then got further down and somebody asked.  If you're gonna do it, why not use the biggest rotors available that'll still work, which I'd assume would be tundra/sequoia rotors?  You'd hafta use bigger wheels, but since I have some cheap 35's lined up I've been looking into getting some 17" wheels if I could find some cheap enough, and they'd have to be light. 

i might be mistaken but arent they 5 lug???? :dunno:
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Re: New Toyota (Tacoma rotor to SA) braking option
« Reply #8 on: Oct 03, 2009, 12:12:50 AM »
I only remember seeing 5 lug tundras since the latest change, 08  :headscratch:  I never paid much attention till I started changing tires on them.
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Re: New Toyota (Tacoma rotor to SA) braking option
« Reply #9 on: Oct 08, 2009, 07:26:11 PM »
The latest generation of Tundras and Sequoias are the first to see a 5 lug bolt pattern. Every truck before that has 6x5.5
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ok I wasnt sure about that, thanks for clearing that up!  :thumbs:
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That is a sweet set up. I'm definately going to be going this route in the future. Thanks for the post.
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Can anybody supply me with the genuine part numbers of the tacoma brake calipers and the brake rotors please?

I would like to cross reference them to see if they are the same as any Hilux rotors/calipers here in Australia

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Ive been running this kit for a while now and absolutely love it. Brakes work great and when a birf goes boom on the trail, its even fun swapping it out with your spare :greengrin:
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same here, i have been running my setup for 6 months and this is the best break mod i have came across. it spaces the track out 1.5 inches as well.

easy to install, easy to maintain, easy to change axle shafts!!!   f.r.o.r is a great inovator!

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+1 FOR AN AWESOME KIT. Love it!  :beer: :beer: :beer:

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Damn, I just put on V6 brakes on the fronts

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As stated above, I too am running this kit. It's very simple and works extreamly well. The kit requires you to switch your knuckles from side to side to move the factory brake mountling ears. I have 6 shooters and it requiers you to cut the ears off due to the 6 shooters having the ears on both sides. Everthing is simple uses all toyota parts. I have disk brakes all around and it stops great for a 4700 lbs rig.

 
 
 
 
 

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