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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #150 on: Jun 11, 2006, 08:31:41 PM »
The drivers side port on the box goes to the drivers side port on the ram.

The passenger side port on TOP of the box goes to the passenger side port on the ram.

I dont know what to say other wise,  I STILL havent added any volume to my reservoir and mine steers amazingly.  I finally aired my tires back up today from 5 to 36 psi and it was UNREAL at how easy it steered.  I could steer mine with out problem with it PARKED and running with only 5 psi in the tires. 

are you 100% POSITIVE you got the top port cleaned out in the vein?  If you have ANY metal in there, it can mess it up.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #151 on: Jun 11, 2006, 09:01:28 PM »
that or you still have air in the system, they are a mofo to bleed sometimes guess how I know :qtip:. THe cylinder may still have air in it. Unbolt the cylinder and let in hang as low as possible with the fittings up and bleed it again, this is about the best way to bleed it. You added to your res so your not sucking air there, its gotta be in the cylinder

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #152 on: Jun 12, 2006, 09:50:37 AM »
The drivers side port on the box goes to the drivers side port on the ram.

The passenger side port on TOP of the box goes to the passenger side port on the ram.

I dont know what to say other wise,  I STILL havent added any volume to my reservoir and mine steers amazingly.  I finally aired my tires back up today from 5 to 36 psi and it was UNREAL at how easy it steered.  I could steer mine with out problem with it PARKED and running with only 5 psi in the tires. 

are you 100% POSITIVE you got the top port cleaned out in the vein?  If you have ANY metal in there, it can mess it up.

Looks like my lines are correct then.

I really think I got everything out.. I drilled and tapped with my shop vac millimeters away from the bit, used brakeclean and vacccumed it out, used a blow tip on my compressor.  It "should" be clean....but..who knows..if I can solve this then it will be coming out.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #153 on: Jun 12, 2006, 09:52:39 AM »
that or you still have air in the system, they are a mofo to bleed sometimes guess how I know :qtip:. THe cylinder may still have air in it. Unbolt the cylinder and let in hang as low as possible with the fittings up and bleed it again, this is about the best way to bleed it. You added to your res so your not sucking air there, its gotta be in the cylinder

Im gonna go ahead and disconnect it and let it hang and try this.   Im thinkin its air too...but can figure where it could be. I'll post back with an update.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #154 on: Jun 12, 2006, 06:37:24 PM »
Did you look in the top vein and see the other end? It is usually relatively difficult to get all the chips out of that vein. From the boxes I've done, I was never able to use air alone and blow all the chips out. I always had to fish out the majority. I'd also check the air. It can take a while to bleed the system. When you do it, are you filling, cycling, killing engine for 30 mins. or so to let it cool/settle, then repeating?
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #155 on: Jun 12, 2006, 06:46:19 PM »
Had another thought. If you have access to a couple of 1/4 NPT pipe plugs, you might try disconnecting and removing the ram, plug the 2 ports in your box, and see what the result is. This would tell you if you have an abundance of air in the ram still or if you have something mucked up in the box.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #156 on: Jun 13, 2006, 05:09:16 AM »
Did you look in the top vein and see the other end? It is usually relatively difficult to get all the chips out of that vein. From the boxes I've done, I was never able to use air alone and blow all the chips out. I always had to fish out the majority. I'd also check the air. It can take a while to bleed the system. When you do it, are you filling, cycling, killing engine for 30 mins. or so to let it cool/settle, then repeating?


I'm pretty confident I got everything out but who knows.   I was using that method of bleeding.  My fluid is no longer frothy at all in the reservoir. 
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #157 on: Sep 10, 2006, 01:07:06 PM »
I have a problem, when I pulled the piston out of the ifs box, the teflon ring at the bottom was ripped, does anyone know where to get one, or know the part # so I can get one at the toy stealership?   

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #158 on: Sep 10, 2006, 01:18:25 PM »
I have a problem, when I pulled the piston out of the ifs box, the teflon ring at the bottom was ripped, does anyone know where to get one, or know the part # so I can get one at the toy stealership?   


I know the dealer sells a whole seal kit. Not sure if you can get just the teflon seal or not.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #159 on: Sep 10, 2006, 02:49:06 PM »

I know the dealer sells a whole seal kit. Not sure if you can get just the teflon seal or not.
wonder how much they are gonna burn me for that?

Also I wonder if there is a teflon ring in a push pull steering box that would fit the piston for the ifs box?
« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2006, 02:57:38 PM by The Stig »

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #160 on: Sep 10, 2006, 06:18:04 PM »
this thread is cool. glad it blew up lately as hydro assist is up soon for me... keep breaking it down to retard level so I can understand 100% of what I need  :yupyup:  :help:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #161 on: Sep 12, 2006, 04:33:24 PM »
Ive called the stealership, and they discontinued the part that i need. looks like im gonna have to find another ifs box... so the lesson is dont break the teflon ring, or end up with a box that has the ring broken in it

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #162 on: Sep 12, 2006, 05:00:44 PM »
Did they say how long ago the discontinued it? Was it the whole kit or just the ring? I just bought a seal kit not to long ago.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #163 on: Sep 12, 2006, 05:11:36 PM »
Did they say how long ago the discontinued it? Was it the whole kit or just the ring? I just bought a seal kit not to long ago.
they didnt say when, they didnt even offer me a kit, they offered me the piston assy. and they said that they didnt even have that... where did you get the seal kit, and wht part # is it?

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #164 on: Sep 12, 2006, 05:18:04 PM »
Ok, I just called the dealership down here( I know the guy in parts :gap:) This is the part # for the kit 04445-35080. Price is , are you ready, $119.95 :yikes: This is for an 86, though I think they are all the same. :dunno: He said he doesn't know if the teflon seal is in it or not, but I remember one being in mine, cuz thats why I bought it. I also don't remmber paying that much either. Let try and find the bag that my kit came in and get that PN. too.  :beer:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #165 on: Sep 12, 2006, 05:18:41 PM »
Oh he also said there are 22 of those kits in the nation, so getting one will be easy.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #166 on: Sep 12, 2006, 05:27:06 PM »
they didnt say when, they didnt even offer me a kit, they offered me the piston assy. and they said that they didnt even have that... where did you get the seal kit, and wht part # is it?

same part # thats in the pic that Dave (OOPS) gave you in the thread you started on Pirate
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508309

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #167 on: Sep 12, 2006, 05:35:40 PM »
same part # thats in the pic that Dave (OOPS) gave you in the thread you started on Pirate
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508309
appreciate it, for some reason i cant open the pbb on my home pc (long story about dsl issues not reconizing (sp) the dns addy of the pbb)  but ill check it out

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #169 on: Sep 13, 2006, 04:29:55 AM »
thanks kyota  :beer: :beer: to ya

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #170 on: Sep 26, 2006, 08:37:46 AM »
awsome thread  :drooling: I'm going to order my parts this week.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #171 on: Sep 30, 2006, 05:03:25 AM »
Thanks nice write up!
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #172 on: Oct 11, 2006, 08:58:13 AM »
http://www.prosteering.com/k_toyota_truck.htm
i wish i had found this place when i did mine i had to pay almost $200 from the dealer ship.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #173 on: Oct 20, 2006, 08:45:01 PM »
 
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #174 on: Oct 20, 2006, 10:02:49 PM »
I dont know if any of you know this. But Trail Gear has a Full Ram assist kit, which comes with the ram, and all of the brackets and bolts to mount it to the toyota axle, and also has the Hydro lines, and it only costs $199.. Not bad if you ask me, No more searching for the right ram, or trying to fab your own brackets..
All you need is a taped box, or tap your own.. and a high steer kit which has a 1.25" tie rod..  Ive seen this kit and driven with one, and it makes 40's seem like there not even there..

http://www.trail-gear.com/hydro-steering

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #175 on: Oct 20, 2006, 10:32:37 PM »
I dont know if any of you know this. But Trail Gear has a Full Ram assist kit, which comes with the ram, and all of the brackets and bolts to mount it to the toyota axle, and also has the Hydro lines, and it only costs $199.. Not bad if you ask me, No more searching for the right ram, or trying to fab your own brackets..
All you need is a taped box, or tap your own.. and a high steer kit which has a 1.25" tie rod..  Ive seen this kit and driven with one, and it makes 40's seem like there not even there..

http://www.trail-gear.com/hydro-steering

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199$ is alot of money compared to what these guys are doins it for.  you dont have to do any searching its all figured out allready all ya have to do is read up. The trail gear kit is an easy order and install kit ,but I will save my money for sommin else. :)
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #176 on: Oct 20, 2006, 10:44:44 PM »
fabbing brackets isn't hard and doesn't take much time.  plus 199 is still $80 more than what i paid for mine doing it like how this thread says

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #177 on: Dec 03, 2006, 10:05:36 PM »
were are you guys mounting your cooler at? got any pics
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #178 on: Dec 03, 2006, 10:10:59 PM »
Not to mention, who wants to give any money to T.G.

I didn't run cooler on mine. But I had a 4.3, so I was running a chevy pump to a yota box. Didn't seem to have any prob with heat, but I also didn't have a huge amount of trail time on it either.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #179 on: Dec 03, 2006, 10:35:41 PM »
i was thinking about running a chev pump on my toy motor but i wonder if it would even be worth the time and effort to try and mount a chev pump?
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