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Making clearance in front fender wells and SAS
« on: Jul 03, 2007, 10:37:19 AM »
Wanting to get a little room up front for bigger tires before I put the solid axle on the truck. the 1st picture is IFS with 35" MTR's.




Same tire turned all the way to the right. The 1st picture is about 3/4" turn.

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The last picture is with then fender on to show how much was trimed.

« Last Edit: Jul 03, 2007, 12:28:41 PM by Doable »
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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #1 on: Jul 03, 2007, 10:44:28 AM »
Once you have a solid axle on there you won't need all of that trimmed unless you are running larger than 37" tires.

Here is a picture with 37's no firewall trimming, just pounded down the pinchweld

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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #2 on: Jul 03, 2007, 10:46:15 AM »
To fill the hole I cut I had an old SideKick hood and used that metal to weld in and cover the opening.

 

Both sides got trimmed to the body mount, then primmed.

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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #3 on: Jul 03, 2007, 10:50:27 AM »
now the fun part by-by IFS




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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #4 on: Jul 03, 2007, 10:54:31 AM »
Time for my shaved 85 axle to be used again.



Along with some Marlin Crawler parts  :yesnod:

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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #5 on: Jul 03, 2007, 10:59:03 AM »
Ran into a problem with the springs that are on the axles and have to find a set of rear springs to be able to bolt everything up. The springs I have fall short. Once I get a rear pack i can mix and match them to finish it off.Weld in the shock mount and start enjoying all the hours of work and get it off the jack stands. :driving:
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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #6 on: Jul 03, 2007, 11:03:42 AM »
Once you have a solid axle on there you won't need all of that trimmed unless you are running larger than 37" tires.

Here is a picture with 37's no firewall trimming, just pounded down the pinchweld


What lift springs are you running? The reason I did the mod was to keep the lift as low as I could, that way I could give up height and still run a decent  size tire.
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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells
« Reply #7 on: Jul 03, 2007, 11:06:38 AM »
What lift springs are you running? The reason I did the mod was to keep the lift as low as I could, that way I could give up height and still run a decent  size tire.
Rears up front. About 1" lift.

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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells and SAS
« Reply #8 on: Jul 04, 2007, 12:09:31 PM »
Albert, keep up the good work! Keep the progress coming! And start sportin' those sweet rims!  :eyebrow:

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Re: Making clearance in front fender wells and SAS
« Reply #9 on: Jul 09, 2007, 11:08:22 AM »
Ran into a sang I have the Rears up front with the Marlin hanger , the steering is Sky cross over,But coming off the steering box that arm looks to be to long .If I flex it it wants to hit the cross over bar..


The factoryarm looks to be about 7" long.Does any one make arm there for the factory Toy box but shorter??


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And then move your steering box forward.

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Well made some progress. Was able to finish welding on the Marlin front hanger and torched the hole in the frame for the shackle. I used 3/8" plate on the frame because the hole for the shackle was to close to the factory square hole.



I'm happy with the shackle angle




Also had time to get the (new to me stock SR5 rims all cleaned up  :yupyup: )



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Holy Crap! I want those rims back!  :rivers: Those things look SAAAWWWEEEETTTT!!!!

Any progress with the leaves in front? What did you decide to use?

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Holy Crap! I want those rims back!  :rivers: Those things look SAAAWWWEEEETTTT!!!!

Any progress with the leaves in front? What did you decide to use?


  :thumbs: Thanks again  man. Yea they did turn out pretty good.With the rest of the truck assembled  everything should look better.


Hit the junk yards and found a set of 86 rear springs and just combined them with the my original front springs they are almost flat. Tires get moved forward, shackle looks good, just will have to get a shorter pitman arm from SKY to stop the steering from hitting when I flex right now it has crazy down flex with the flat springs.



If all goes well i'll have the shock tower on, brakes hooked up and front drive shaft for the weekend.
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Hmmm... I'll have to add a couple leaves to the rears up front as well. How do you like the stock fronts under the rears? Flex well? Got any flex pics?

Glad I could help you, and those really do look  :bling:

Please let me know if there's any part you need, and I'll keep my eye out for it here in AR!  :thumbs:

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 Where are you at on your project ?

Let me know if get the axle in B.R. I can hold it for you or if you need a hand with it.  Should have it rolling Saturday and well see how it flexes and see how the road manners are.
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I have two solid axel trucks, both of them I am running 37" tires. The majic trick is moving the front axel forward. Three inches with 4 to 5 in spings has worked well for me. No rubbing, no tubbing!!!! I did this via spring hanger and rears up front. I'm running early 80s toy rear main two on top of my fron allpro springs, the work bitchen for leafs. This moves your front axel two inches forward and the other in I get out of the hanger. This set up makes for a super soft flexy ride.
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The axle actually might be shipped. The owner has a pretty good shipping rate, so I might just take advantage of that. Thanks for the offer to hold it though!

I'm still rounding up parts and spending money  :smack: I hope to start re-assembling the engine this weekend, but we'll see how that works out!

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looks like a nice rig.
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 Today got a chance to plate the frame to put the ford shock towers on



All plated. At ride height



Fully extended


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Was able to put the tabs for the brake lines on the shock towers intsead of on the frame.




Ride height



Entended





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looks like a nice rig.

Thanks I think it will all come together nicely. I had some of the stuff like axles and steering, shocks from my other 4x4 that I could reuse. That really helped on not having to dish out all the money at once.

Bleed the brakes tomorrow and take it for a short test drive  :driving:.  Ops wrong icon I have an auto  :qtip:
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I cant wait to see this thing flex, Im getting ready to do the same thing to my 83.
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You don't have a picture of compressed. I know the RUF will go negative like OH- (ahahaha chemistry sux...), and as such you might not have enough up-travel left in the shocks. Ya might wanna check that out.    : > )

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doable  arent you in Monroe ??   how  you know Jordan  :headscratch: 


:willynilly:  IM SO CONFUSED





:psss:  i dont think you have enough uptravel

measure  your  ride hieght  from axle to bumpstop,  if its  less than your shocks  you will break the shock first time you land hard on the front
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doable  arent you in Monroe ??   how  you know Jordan  :headscratch:

Albert spotted my rims that I pulled off the 85 on my pirate buildup and asked if I'd sell them. I kinda want them back, as they really cleaned up nice <tears>. But, they have a good home now, and he's doing some good work!

Albert, Glen (coyote) is right about the uptravel issue. Make sure you check it out before you wheel it and break something bad... <again, tears...>

Keep up the good work!

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Quit giving the guy a hard time, he has his bump-shocks set up perfect. :gap:

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MiniSimp ,  Man now that I have the whole suspension together you are right . With rears up front I really don't think the fender wells need to be tubbed. I just wanted the truck to stay as low as possible. Live and learn,but the pictures show that it wasn't necessary.My wife walked out side and saw the hole I cut in the floor board and  :tantrum: you just got the truck , it worked fine for the other owner did you really need to do that to it ?   :ha_ha: It was still fun to do.

Jordan, for you no more picture of the truck with the SR5 rims  :shake:. Like a kid that did not take his ADHD medicine is what it took to make them look like that.

79coyotefrg , Way lower than Monroe, I'm south of Lafayette, La. 7 hours to HotSprings.


For the front up travel I haven't flexed it yet to see what will bind. I was planning on putting regular bump stop on the u-bolt plates in addition to the bump stops on the shocks (this is how I ran them on my Samurai with good results). Thanks for the warning on on that. The last thing I want to do is tear up the work I've been doing.

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79coyotefrg , Way lower than Monroe, I'm south of Lafayette, La. 7 hours to HotSprings.
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