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Going to be. Partial exo....it will have a rear cage done with shock hoops for the bypass shocks sitting at the shop...then like my black one it will have side sliders that come out of the bed and go forward...this time tying I to sliders and following the rear wheel well line...
Haven't decided yet but whatever it is will be clean and tight...no real decisions yet...my cages and armor aren't prethought up....I stare at it for a while then it clicks...

MRHilux87 · « **Reply #41 on:** Feb 15, 2015, 04:12:40 PM »

Where are you located? Im gonna need a cage done sometime around the end of this year after I do the 4wu front 3 link. I like the tube on the black tacoma. All the guys around where I am build cages with about 600lbs of triangles. Half of which is on the roof. So that mean they are so top heavy they spend half their time on their lids. I like the less is more approach.

bullcrew · « **Reply #42 on:** Feb 15, 2015, 11:11:26 PM »

Quote from: MRHilux87 on Feb 15, 2015, 04:12:40 PM

Where are you located? Im gonna need a cage done sometime around the end of this year after I do the 4wu front 3 link. I like the tube on the black tacoma. All the guys around where I am build cages with about 600lbs of triangles. Half of which is on the roof. So that mean they are so top heavy they spend half their time on their lids. I like the less is more approach.

San Diego....
Yeah I'm a firm believer of keeping the weight low and minimum....protect what's important and let the rest hang....

bullcrew · « **Reply #43 on:** Feb 16, 2015, 06:42:09 PM »

Let's hear it for bobbed beds lol...was dragging shackles in the dirt and rocks today.
This legs is NASTY...pics don't do it justce the left side is a wall and there is a gap ion rocks....been denied a few times in the past on this as well as this spot claims axles....and yes left side is sitting non the wall.

bullcrew · « **Reply #44 on:** Feb 18, 2015, 05:51:15 PM »

The more boring side of things...would rather be fabbing but couldn't chat Monday with other guys on trail...---
.buddy gave me a new cobra 75 cb so Installing it and the race radio in the next week or so.....unfortunently we run a diversified group some have ham some have race and most have cb.....

bullcrew · « **Reply #45 on:** Feb 19, 2015, 08:43:48 PM »

Grabbed some shocks for the Toyota....
The coilovers will be thrown up front minus coils and hardware for now till I link it.
Bypass will go on rear to control leafs

King 2.5 triple bypass 7/8 shaft
King 2.5 coilovers 7/8 shaft
Fox 4" hydraulic bumps

MRHilux87 · « **Reply #46 on:** Feb 19, 2015, 08:59:43 PM »

Wow. Ive been looking for some rear bypass shocks. Interested to see how much they help. Everyone thinks bilstiens are so great, but they don't do much for the weight of a runner with some tube. Wobbles no matter how you mount them.

bullcrew · « **Reply #47 on:** Feb 20, 2015, 12:07:05 AM »

Quote from: MRHilux87 on Feb 19, 2015, 08:59:43 PM

Wow. Ive been looking for some rear bypass shocks. Interested to see how much they help. Everyone thinks bilstiens are so great, but they don't do much for the weight of a runner with some tube. Wobbles no matter how you mount them.

I've run them on leaf springs in 1500 prerunner and a few other rigs in past and it works great....valving is a bit tricky sometimes....the bumps are what make the difference at speed and add some stability....

bullcrew · « **Reply #48 on:** Feb 21, 2015, 08:10:18 AM »

I will be doing 4wu links fro t and rear very soon....I'll dial this in run it and then I will modify cause its there.....unless I get this totally dialed then maybe just front links....
I've done leaf set ups oln prerunners in past so I know a little about dialing the progressive nature of a leaf spring...

The shocks I'll valve Monday or Tuesday...12/15 front and 12/15 rear to start and keep it easy....the bypass should be on pretty spot....and tune with the tubes the front shock may be a little too much rebound for how soft my springs are but I want to add the one leaf back in for a bit more height now that it settled....

The bumps I'll start out at 200 psi each run it hard and see whats left n shaft till I hit whoops and hard dips....plan is to leave 1/2" of shaft for safety on a "oh $h!t" moment....on the bumps...rear will start out 150psi no weight....

Fox bumps are from 50 psi to 500psi as far as a workable range....trophy trucks start out at 300 and go from there....

bullcrew · « **Reply #49 on:** Feb 21, 2015, 08:12:51 PM »

Going to box a shock mount into this.

bullcrew · « **Reply #50 on:** Feb 24, 2015, 05:33:36 PM »

Started the mounts...all boxxed in and will now work on hydraulic bumps and front coil over mounts...(remove hardware and run em till I link).

After I get them all mounted I'll finish off the rear cage and all the work....it will all be dialed but spread out too get the shocks on and tuned first...then asthetics.

The rear will all be tied in so no flex...the angle is vertical and triangulated upper so very little side movement its pretty vertical and column loaded...

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #51 on:** Feb 24, 2015, 08:07:44 PM »

Awesome work, you've got one badass taco!!! $Beer Chug\'n$

bullcrew · « **Reply #52 on:** Feb 25, 2015, 06:24:19 AM »

Thanks...I'm currently deciding if I'm going to roll the center of the shocks in toward each other....kind of a hard choice bypass will negatesome of the past 90* damping and the hydraulic bumps will control body roll on G-Outs....its more crawler than anything but want to carry speed as well..
But want a good ride....don't want to run too soft of valving just to have it be too soft on body roll..

MRHilux87 · « **Reply #53 on:** Feb 25, 2015, 07:56:27 AM »

I think its difficult for them to do their job very well so far from the ends of the axle, but I understand why you couldn't put them outside the springs. Have to change the frame. Let us know how they work, or post a video.

bullcrew · « **Reply #54 on:** Feb 25, 2015, 10:57:19 PM »

Revalved the king bypasses today and then cycled it...it moves freely...so hydraulic bumps and front shocks tomorrow and valve them.
Drops below body line and completely stuffs into wheel well...

bullcrew · « **Reply #55 on:** Feb 25, 2015, 11:07:23 PM »

OK talked to Wayne at alltec who suspension techs for KOH..... as well as Scott at addicted off road and brian at 4WU and we all came to the same page.....
Leafs control most of the roll or leverage it isn't being negated by past 90* only damping is so therefore it can be tuned for effectiveness and a straight mounting with my set up will allow the full use of the shock and damping for high speed with the bumps going on....I will feel some sway on G-outs but the shock sits into the second compression valve when leaned so between that and sitting g on the outboard hydraulic bumps it should maintain a solid forward speed in faster stuff as well as have added damping from bumps when leaned or crawling...it won't effect it too badly....shaft speed needs to be close to 17" a second for the bypass too really kick in and slow speed crawling is going to be good with the digresive nature of the mounting when articulating and a stiffer pack for high speed...it will be less effective when flexing....
Long and short it cycles well and I hit some harder stuff today it soaks it up nicely.....won't be a race truck but will be a fun to run rig....

10 to 15* forward possibly but as long as it clears the tires and articulated the one to one mounting will shine in the open speed area...

Also a 2.5 with the oil and damping will slow more than a smaller shaft 5100 so it assists right off the bat.

I will say the feel of the bypass in rear compared the the bilstein is night and day...the 5100 moved freely and was soft but cheap feeling and hollow...the new shock is solid and the wheels feel so much more plated and less fidgitty

And Wayne gave me some tidbits to think about but also to not overthink it. run it and see then tune...

bullcrew · « **Reply #56 on:** Feb 28, 2015, 07:12:01 PM »

OK cut wheel wells out and mounted new hoops for the coilovers,...they are stripped now but designed to handle the link kit when I do it....so one more brace a tie n from hoop to hoop...
Now time for hydraulic bumps on all 4 corners...

I will be retuning the shocks...front will be going from a 15/12 with flutter to a 12/12 with flutter and back will be going to a 10/12 from a 12/12 on the bypass...there's not much bed weight.

So flex test is done it will go more than my rock pile was high so its a go....now to tune and dial in for speed...plenty stable and I dropped off the pole to see about it falling to easily but it was constant and a HUGE difference in a good way compared ton the bilstein 5100....very glad to swap up...

All wheels stuff and crush on the body so need to trim and they all drop out further than I figured...

jfowens · « **Reply #57 on:** Mar 05, 2015, 01:00:21 PM »

this is my dream truck! this thing is sick, good job!

GRW · « **Reply #58 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 05:01:03 AM »

Quote from: jfowens on Mar 05, 2015, 01:00:21 PM

this is my dream truck! this thing is sick, good job!

It's in my top 5-6 also.

bullcrew · « **Reply #59 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 06:11:38 PM »

Took it out to TDS this weekend and it held its own rather easily....
Ran $1000 hill several times did the notch dropped in on backside ran some vertical walls with the buggies at the notches and outran a lot of crawlers in the washes and smaller whoops...haven't done hydro bumps yet so avoid the bigger whoops till I stick em I ....

Heres the kicker...

-Broke a motor mount its cracked
-Accelerator pedal sticks on return a smidge and idles 1.5k I stick my toes under it and barely lift up it returns to normal
- transmission lever has to be pushed a bit hard into park so key will come out...actsli,e a tranny alignment issue from a Mount.
- bent a hydro assist fitting and it leaked....

All really minor things: motor mounts are weak stock, hydro fitting twisted up because of piss poor design by trail gear tie rod twisting even when tightened, the rest I'm sure is adjustments and cleaning....

Ran it pretty damn hard and fast and all weekend long from 9am to 2am....lol it just worked...

So of any one has answers to the above stated id appreciate help mainly...ID.e and accelertor pedal (I will try cleaning throttle body butterfly)
AND tranny .ever not quite going back for key to come out without pushing it forward firmly ....

I landed on the frame a few times hard which caused irradic and high idle.....any ideas...

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