Topic: mercedes diesel or vw

[94ifs]

I would like to see the pros and cons of both considering doing a swap in one of my Toyotas

[Nation]

RBT4    lol

[94ifs [OP]]

Rbt4?

[OVRAROK]

he's talking about a cummins bt4, if your looking at om617 swap, I have kit from 4x4labs to convert, possibly for sale

[94ifs [OP]]

Not interested in the cummins 4bt, too heavy. And I might be interested in the swap parts just trying to get opinions on  both those motors.

[Nation]

sorry. been watching too many turbo videos. ^^^^^  4BT lol

[helipilot77]

4bt is definitely way to heavy. I would recommend the VW engine. Seems like the OM617 would be far to long.

[RCKSQRL]

Ovarok- what kit do you have?


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[OVRAROK]

kit from luke at4x4labs  om617 to w series trans

[Jagdverband44]

I have a bias against VW engines just because they involve a gaggle of wires and a timing belt which can swallow rocks like a crack dealer and cause seizures.
 OM617 engines were built for Somali warlords and are overbuilt. Actually overbuilt is an understatement. No electronics, enclosed timing case, oil cooled pistons, Ti nitride crank, rods made from some clandestine German steel recipe, WET BORE read SLEEVED cylinders (Cummins B series are parent bore aka Bored into the block) Famously bulletproof Mercedes cam train (wide cam lobes, was copied by Datsun)
 >>Check the timing chain stretch cuz it will dog you >>Run it cuz Mohammed Farrah Aidid wouldn't run a VW >>Make sure you run Diesel oil

https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-timing-chain-replacement-kit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM617_engine

[helipilot77]

Although I do agree with the above post. I would go with a VW because I think Mercs are to heavy and bulky for a toyota. If you have ever seen one out you realize how long they really are.

[Bad_Vision]

Although I do agree with the above post. I would go with a VW because I think Mercs are to heavy and bulky for a toyota. If you have ever seen one out you realize how long they really are.

VW was easy to mount and fit!
im in the middle of my swap and I have to make a custom cross member for engine clearance but other then that it's been great!

The wiring is really not that hard it just needs to be slimmed down. I will be posting a full walkthrough video of how to make the stand alone harness and wire Toyota side. Within the week. Fallow my YouTube to stay updated.




https://youtu.be/VgfX615f5aU



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[emsvitil]

Is there a fore-aft link to keep the engine from going fore and aft?

[Bad_Vision]

Is there a fore-aft link to keep the engine from going fore and aft?

Yup tranny mount
3 point location brace keeps it centered and from twisting any direction.


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[sassparilla_kid]

Y'all are forgetting the Mercedes om60x line (601,602,603,604,605,606). A turbo om602 makes the same power as an om617, is lighter, has a crossflow head (more power potential), don't require valve adjustments every 8k miles, and are only 2.5 litres instead of the 3 litres a 617 is (so better fuel economy).

[emsvitil]

So what happens in California if you used a 'cheating' VW diesel?

[Bad_Vision]

So what happens in California if you used a 'cheating' VW diesel?

Who cares California let them selves be ruled by hippies and they deserve to not have the cool stuff for not defending there rights to spend money they earn how they want to drive what they want.


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