Topic: Project Undertow *2RZ Turbo Crawler*

[Tungsten Slayer]

Yeah, 1.5" I believe from the flange and then it all goes into 1 which tapers into the turbo flange..

[twistedtoy92]

Sure is! Nice looking manifold buddy!

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Thanks man!  I have enouch pieces cut to make a few more.. Here's 2 pic's of the process.



TIG welded inside and out

[twistedtoy92]

Very nice!!!

[Wainiha]

very nice!

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Sorry for the video quality, I was driving 1 handed and the camera doesn't pic up the audio very well, but its something until I get better footage..

[MRHilux87]

Sounds healthy.  I like it.  Needs a few more psi. 

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

   Intercooler and then 6 psi, that is the plan!

[twistedtoy92]

Intercooler, little watermeth and 8-10 psi!!!  I have a set of intercoolers off of my 05 Audi A4... I was running 22 psi no problem on them. Let me know if you'd be interested.

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

I'd take a look @ the intercoolers if you send me a pic!

Do intercoolers do that well on slow crawlers?  Should I hook up a fan for the intercooler?  Think 6-8 psi...

Seems like with hardly moving at times there wouldn't be much air flow through the cooler.  I have a trans cooler fan from an auto 4runner that would be perfect for a small intercooler if it is necessary. 

[Wainiha]

Sounds badass.

[twistedtoy92]

I'd take a look @ the intercoolers if you send me a pic!

Will do! I have to head in later to pull my turbo and manifold off to weld on the tial wastegate v-band so I will swing by my storage unit and snap some pics for you.

[R.DesJardin]

Be interesting to see how much boost you can run before you loose throttle control and just have power and unwanted tire spin from the turbo hit. Never ran a turbo but it seems that the torque/power hits hard all at once? I ran a big block built for low end in a wheeler and all it seemed to want to do is spin 35" tires. I think you need to be able to control it/spin. My ideal power/torque curve would be like a giant electric motor smooth and consistent at all rpm's. Seems most of the high boost RZ's are all about drag racing performance. Oh yeah forgot to mention manifold tubing parts are on the way. 

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Be interesting to see how much boost you can run before you loose throttle control and just have power and unwanted tire spin from the turbo hit. Never ran a turbo but it seems that the torque/power hits hard all at once? I ran a big block built for low end in a wheeler and all it seemed to want to do is spin 35" tires. I think you need to be able to control it/spin. My ideal power/torque curve would be like a giant electric motor smooth and consistent at all rpm's. Seems most of the high boost RZ's are all about drag racing performance. Oh yeah forgot to mention manifold tubing parts are on the way. 

I will be really happy if I ever reach that point where it cooks the tires when I look @ the skinny peddle.  I have noticed that the boost does seem to creep up instead of just pegging out @ my wopping 4 psi.  Of course if there is a lot of load its usually full boost immediately, but it is so controllable and smooth.  Turbo size will help dictate when the power kicks in.  I went for a small turbo that spools at low rpm because it has such a small hot side.  The guys going balls to the nuts have bigger hot side probably to allow more heat and burnt air fuel volume to escape is my guess?  They probably have a higher stall converter so they would have higher rpm before a load is put on the motor causing boost to spike.. I dunno, just thinking on paper at this point.  It's fun you won't regret it, that is all you need to know right now, I'll be watching for this manifold build!

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Well, I am looking at buying a winch to slap on this haus.  I don't want to spend $800-1000 on a warn, so I am looking at Smittybilt and T-max right now. 

The Shitty Smitty 9500# XRC 6.6hp w/ 100 ft. synthetic line weight 46lbs. and is $465 shipped to me.

The T-max is an 8500# with a 5.5 hp w/100 ft. synthetic line weight 66 lbs and is $466 shipped to me.

The smitty boasts a waterproof rating submersible up to 30 min. while the T-max says nothing of the sort.

Smitty also throws in a lifetime mechanical warranty and 3 year electrical warranty.

I've also got a very lightly used Warm M8000 I can swoop for $400 with no fairlead or line, just the winch and remote comtrol...  I am open to opinions or even story's about your brothers baby's grandkids experience...

[twistedtoy92]

The Shitty Built seems like the best buy... BUT Warn is top dog....

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

I know man... I could get the warn m8000 for $400 and do the cheaper synthetic line for around $100.  The M8000 is selling for $579 new with cable and roller fairlead both of which I don't want... That is the quandry I am in, I would really prefer synthetic rope vs. cable just for the safety factor and lighter weight.

[twistedtoy92]

I agree with you on the synthetic... I'll be going that route if I ever get the time to get the 4runner done... Go for the Warn if its in good shape!

[MRHilux87]

I think Im gonna order a smittybuilt.  I know you usually get what you pay for... and there is a time for spending extra money, but sometimes your just paying mostly for a name.  Im hoping thats the case with winches. 
I used to diss on the cheap amazon light bars and LEDs.  Then a buddy of mine got three of them, one on his rzr 800 which I borrowed.  I jumped that thing, took so many hard hits, drove it in the pouring rain for three days and it worked flawlessly.  All for 1/3 of the price of a rigid.  Hes had it for almost a year now.  No problems at all. 

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

I think Im gonna order a smittybuilt.  I know you usually get what you pay for... and there is a time for spending extra money, but sometimes your just paying mostly for a name.  Im hoping thats the case with winches. 
I used to diss on the cheap amazon light bars and LEDs.  Then a buddy of mine got three of them, one on his rzr 800 which I borrowed.  I jumped that thing, took so many hard hits, drove it in the pouring rain for three days and it worked flawlessly.  All for 1/3 of the price of a rigid.  Hes had it for almost a year now.  No problems at all. 

I too have some cheap Led lights on my crawler and I like the heck outta them.  I have some experience with the smittybilt's and it was all good.  I however have a friend who has several winches and being in Oregon (where Warn is made) he has kind of talked me into buying the Warn.  He said a couple things that stand out.  He has 3 winches and the oldest and most used 1 is a Warn.  It still works great and the other 2 work, but they have become finicky.  He said he could fix them, but he can't find parts. 

The Warn I am looking at was purchased new (2006), used one season on the back of a rig and then sat in the garage for 7 years.  The pics look like it is in really clean shape.  I have tried to haggle, but $400 seems to be the bottom dollar.  I think I am going to spring on it for 2 reasons. 

1. The m8000 has been proven and is a solid 8,000 lbs winch which I can find parts for plus I can get the original receipt for the lifetime mechanical warranty 

2. Made in USA is cool to me and I will not have to mess with cable since it has no line I can purchase my desired synthetic and not have to eat the cost of the stock line or roller fairlead which comes with the new purchase on the Smitty.

In my research I looked at the new Warn VR8000 compared to the M8000 and it's hands down the M8000 has a better motor, electronics and line speed/duty cycle.  So for about $35 more I should have a reliable long lasting recovery machine.

I bet the smittybilt would do everything I ask from it, but there is that unknown where as the Warn is already a proven good thing and is available right now to me. 

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Take that Evil Magic turtle!   All that flying around on my screen was a waste of your time.

[Crunchy Taco]

My friend has a smittt built with syn. Line. It's always worked really well I've seen him pull a full size chev out with it didn't get hot or fry batteries or nothin. Another thing wana sell me pieces to build a manifold? Give me a price and I'm game

[Nation]

I just got a Smittybilt XRC 12k, synthetic rope... I'll let you know how it does.

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Tail Lights! 

No moss

 I've had these tail lights sitting around for almost decade now... Time to $#!+ or get off the pot  .

[twistedtoy92]

Badass!!! Looks mean!

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Put some bed sides on and took a couple poser shots...



Just gotta get a shorter bolt and do some filing to make that mount work..hehe 

[Wainiha]

I still love the anchor panhard mount.

[MRHilux87]

If It was skinned it would take it to the next level.  Love the boatsides too. 

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

If It was skinned it would take it to the next level.  Love the boatsides too. 

Are you spying on me?

More coming in the not so distant future 

[Tungsten Slayer [OP]]

Started on the front clip..