Author Topic: toyota axles vs full-size axles (Read 29291 times)

crazymoritz97 · « **on:** Oct 15, 2011, 09:19:00 PM »

hey guys or gals . i'm just looking around and was thinking on what people like or dislike about toyota axles or full size axles ? tell what your thought on it .

$Beer Chug\'n$

Jaysen · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 15, 2011, 09:29:59 PM »

If you ask me..I like to keep everything TOYOTA as possible!!!But also depending on how big of a tire you want to run. But Toyota with longs and 40dee is good enough for me!!

Joey88RUNR · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 15, 2011, 11:52:33 PM »

Quote from: crazymoritz97 on Oct 15, 2011, 09:19:00 PM

hey guys or gals . i'm just looking around and was thinking on what people like or dislike about toyota axles or full size axles ? tell what your thought on it . $Beer Chug\'n$

My thoughts are Stick with toy axles, If I had a money tree I would have diamond axlels front and rear, custom made a little wider then the toy axle and ofcourse longs and high pinion front. one good thing about full size or 1ton axles is how much they weigh and will probably keep the rubber side down easier then toy axles.

4-lo · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 15, 2011, 11:59:15 PM »

Don't ask me why but ill trade for 44 in a heart beat.

fade · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 16, 2011, 12:32:45 AM »

Stock for stock a toyota axle is stronger then a 44. Depends on what size tires you want to run 39s and lower I would just build toyota axles. You need 42s at least to have 1 tons and clear stuff you could with 35s on a toyota axle.

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 16, 2011, 12:39:17 AM »

toy,
like, its toyota!, drop out diffs, easy to work on, strong as a 44 basicly.
dislike, always leak at pinion or at diff, seems like gear set up has to be perfect, trinions

danas in general
easy to work on, spicer parts are cheap, american!, aftermarket support to no end

dislike
60s are expensive as hell, 44 is no stronger than a toy axle in general, gears have to be set up in diff.

thats just a chip off the iceberg, there both good axles, and can be built.

personally i like light weight and over time have strayed from toy axles, so 44s are up my alley
I have ran 42s on stock toy axles in the snow and mud and never broke a part.

dana 60/70s built with arbs is the ideal setup if you have money (in my opinion)

it can go on and on
just comes down to personal preference

Nimyad · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 16, 2011, 12:55:00 AM »

In my opinion it boils down to, do you want light and nimble with Toyota axles and 35-40" tires max, or do you want to be able to just drive biligerantly (excuse that spelling) with tons and a 40"+ tire? For trails in my area you want a skinnier rig or you're going to be hitting trees going to a trail if you don't do 6 pt turns. So I'll probably never go to tons unless I did custom length.

BadnewsBob · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 16, 2011, 06:44:29 PM »

Yeah, What Nimyad said.

I wanna keep the truck lite, Full size adds a lot of beef.

smacaulay · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 17, 2011, 02:20:45 PM »

If you can find a good deal on an Toyota FJ80 axle its a good compromise between the two. They are wide, light, and very strong in stock form...main expense is the steering.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 17, 2011, 03:24:39 PM »

When I first built my truck back in 99' I wanted to use the FJ80 axle, but the lack of hi steer kits made me buy a diamond. I dont regret the purchase but the 80 was my first pick. Now that Hellfire has a knuckle for it. If I were doing it all over again I'd go 80 for sure.

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 17, 2011, 03:27:19 PM »

You can't beat the cheap reliability of toyota axles, but imo once you throw the 40's on yota axles your gonna start having problems. I'd say 38's max for toyotas on rocks. You have no idea what your missing until you wheel the 1 tons though, the width and weight down low is just awesome, and it's nice to throw the pedal down and not worry about breaking. I'd say it's really all up to you to decide what will work best for yourself, if it's your only vehicle or dd, you wheel really tight trails, or never plan to run above a 38 then I would go toyotas. If you want the width, can't keep your toyota axles in one piece, and want to run 40's and up then go 1 tons.

X2 on the fj80's, best of both worlds. I would run those over anything if I could find a set.

crazymoritz97 · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 21, 2011, 11:24:28 PM »

$Beer Chug\'n$ thanks guy . i got to ask but what years did they do the high pinion in the landcruiser ?

TacoRunner · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 22, 2011, 10:13:18 AM »

FJ80 models only. 91-97

Dingman. · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 22, 2011, 12:20:37 PM »

I wanted to do the whole, kept it toyota thing.
3.4l swap, toy axles, longs, high pinion arb, arp studs, etc.. etc..

I are dumb, i should have just put a set of tons, a long time ago.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 22, 2011, 07:16:43 PM »

All I can say to that is learn how to drive dude.

4-lo · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 22, 2011, 11:32:18 PM »

Quote from: Dingman. on Oct 22, 2011, 12:20:37 PM

I wanted to do the whole, kept it toyota thing.
3.4l swap, toy axles, longs, high pinion arb, arp studs, etc.. etc..

I are dumb, i should have just put a set of tons, a long time ago.

X2

I learned it the hard way too. Cant turn back guess just gonna have too burn the god darn thang and start fresh with tons.

Ghtoyrunner · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 27, 2011, 06:32:29 PM »

i would go tons but the funds are very low.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #17 on:** Oct 27, 2011, 06:38:45 PM »

If you're not on 40"s whats the point in going 1 ton? $That\'s Gay$

91 ex-cab · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 27, 2011, 07:31:10 PM »

Quote from: TacoRunner on Oct 27, 2011, 06:38:45 PM

If you're not on 40"s whats the point in going 1 ton? $That\'s Gay$

There is no point. I'm on 40's and I skid my diffs all the time, I don't want the 42s though cause there honestly pointless big dumb fun tires.

crazymoritz97 · « **Reply #19 on:** Oct 27, 2011, 10:36:40 PM »

$Beer Chug\'n$

thanks guys. i'm looking to run a 79-83 truck short bed . but get a newer engine out of a 87-89 efi . and daul t/case then run 33in or 35in tire . for my mild rig but i don't axle on axles . i'm in alot of trails,rocks mud and snow . but the wild rig . i'm going to keep it to my self for now .

John Doe · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 30, 2011, 12:14:05 AM »

I vote fj80 axles front and rear. Which is what I have. I did a custom centered housing for the rear which runs a 9.5" diff. I am currently working on the front, stock front fj80 housing with Hellfire Fab knuckles and Hy steer arms.

Still more work to do.

This will put me 8" wider then stock (4 per side) with much bigger brakes same diff I was already using and a little more weight.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 30, 2011, 09:11:50 AM »

Dam that looks good. $Beer Chug\'n$

boggerunner · « **Reply #22 on:** Oct 30, 2011, 10:27:14 AM »

it all depends on weight and tire size, my 90 4runner is ok with fully built yota axles on 35's, only been through 2 sets of ring and pinyons.
but my fj80 is getting tons(d60/14b) cause its got a vortek 5.7/4l60e/4.3 atlas with 42" iroks
and yota axles would never survive under the 6500lb pig

TacoRunner · « **Reply #23 on:** Oct 30, 2011, 10:39:09 AM »

True, but I think we are all talking about a mini not a heavy 80. There is no reason that a 4500lb mini truck with 37"s cant last a really long time. Heck im the flippin post child for it. I've been on 37" since 05'. Personally I think its all based on how careless you want to be. aka LAZY. If you want to drive by braille or if you want to try to pick a line.

wakkjobb · « **Reply #24 on:** Nov 11, 2011, 09:41:18 PM »

Crap, this thread is perfect: my buddy has a HP 60 kingpin and 10.25 for sale $1200 and I was thinking about selling my built-ish Toy axles to buy the tons. I have 37s and didn't think about the whole "ground clearance" issue... duh.

Spend $1200 for axles, maybe $1600 for tires and $500 for wheels. F that!!!

Toyota axles for me; gotta get Longs someday.

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