Author Topic: birfields ????? (Read 5712 times)

geddofab · « **on:** Oct 24, 2010, 07:47:12 PM »

i know this is a dumb question but was there was ever a stock toyota axle that didn't use birfields. i opened mine up last night for the first time and did not find a birfield but a u joint instead its a spicier joint if that helps. any info would help thanks

Nimyad · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 24, 2010, 08:18:00 PM »

probably somebody put in a birfield eliminator kit after breaking a birf.

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 02:24:50 AM »

Shoot a spicer u-joint VS a birf, whos gonna win? Definatly the spicer u-joint, but id get dirty 30s or longfields if ur looking for an upgrade, they dont bind like u-joints but toyotas 30* of steering probly couldnt bind a u-joint if its whole reputation was at stake. basically just leave it unless you want longs or i went the TG 30's route. If your gonna spend the money get a used pair of longs for ~350-400 cuz bobby says he'll warranty out a used pair, he doesnt care. wish i knew that before i bought my dirty 30's

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 03:03:17 AM »

Someone upgraded from birfs on that one for sure. Of course my 86 didn't come with birfs so the answer to your question would be yes they did and do make 4x4 Toyota's that don't come with birfs.

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 02:58:35 PM »

Besides IFS, did toyota actually have u-joints for some 4x4 axle shafts?

OOPS · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 03:22:32 PM »

Quote from: green yoter krawler on Dec 14, 2010, 02:58:35 PM

Besides IFS, did Toyota actually have joints for some 4x4 axle shafts?

They did not have joints on the IFS, they are a CV which is basically a Birfield without as many balls.

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 06:25:18 PM »

Ha i knew that oops Lol, but thx anyways. i was asking did toyota ever make 4x4s with u-joint axles instead of a cv or birfield?

locked 4x4 · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM »

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 14, 2010, 06:40:17 PM »

Kool didnt think so

yoshaleng · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 16, 2010, 12:36:18 PM »

I feel your pain GREEN YOTER, I have a set of Dirty 30's too....Then found out about their lifetime warranty FLAW.

OOPS · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 16, 2010, 04:04:53 PM »

Quote from: green yoter krawler on Dec 14, 2010, 02:24:50 AM

Shoot a Spicer joint VS a birf, whos gonna win? Definatly the Spicer joint, but id get dirty 30s or longfields if ur looking for an upgrade, they dont bind like u-joints but toyotas 30* of steering probly couldnt bind a joint if its whole reputation was at stake. basically just leave it unless you want longs or i went the TG 30's route. If your gonna spend the money get a used pair of longs for ~350-400 cuz bobby says he'll warranty out a used pair, he doesnt care. wish i knew that before i bought my dirty 30's

It is not the Joint that breaks in the kit, it is the yokes on the D-44 axles. The reason the yokes break is they have to be machined down in order to fit in the axle ball. I ran Spicer 760 X joints and never had a problem. I ran the kit for five years and every time I went out I wondered if today was the day it was going to break. I always carried a Birfield, long and short side axle, and a spindle with me. Even though I now have Longs I still carry a a Birfield, long and short side axle and I have used them.

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 16, 2010, 06:32:40 PM »

OOPS i gotcha there i always bring an extra long and shortside ea with birfs, plus extra steering studs, u-joints, and driveshaft when when wheelin.

YosHaleng you mean bobbys warranty flaw right? Cuz yeahhh totally woulda gone that route

OOPS · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 16, 2010, 07:42:35 PM »

What is "bobbys warranty flaw"?

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 16, 2010, 08:53:54 PM »

im assuming the longfield hub gear..... right?

OOPS · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 17, 2010, 08:42:33 AM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Dec 16, 2010, 08:53:54 PM

im assuming the longfield hub gear..... right?

I do not know, that is why I am asking. I have never had a problem.

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 23, 2010, 01:08:14 AM »

No no bobby is doing a great job, this is actually in favor of the consumer. If you buy a set of longfields off a friend for say $300, If they ever break bobby will warranty them out for brand new ones, even if they're second hand. Now that's a good company IMO

gnarrkill · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 24, 2010, 12:58:38 PM »

Quote from: YosHaleng on Dec 16, 2010, 12:36:18 PM

I have a set of Dirty 30's too....Then found out about their lifetime warranty FLAW.

possume22 · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 24, 2010, 03:30:24 PM »

what are the dirty 30's flaw

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 24, 2010, 03:37:13 PM »

trail gear......

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 25, 2010, 05:14:58 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Dec 24, 2010, 03:37:13 PM

trail gear......

Haha seriosuly. But not the 30's, bobbys longfields. he warranties them even if ur not the original purchaser

possume22 · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 26, 2010, 06:22:49 PM »

longfield warranty a joke will only warranty if you buy hub gears if you dont buy his hub gears and mess one up and see where bobby will tell you to stick it then you will wish you got the dirty 30s the first time

locked 4x4 · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 26, 2010, 11:17:49 PM »

I thought bobby doesn't warranty them if it is the hub gear that messes up the birf?

possume22 · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 26, 2010, 11:31:50 PM »

he will not but trail gear will and you dont need to spend the extra $160 dollars for the hub gears i have longfields but one stripped on the hub gear and the hub gear is not bad im still running it he will not warranty so i got some dirty 30 other than the gub gear catch he has he got good stuff when i bought my longs he should have said he wouldnt warranty if i dont have his hub gears and i strip the splines but you know he didnt and the real problem is i stripped one and my hub gear is fine he just said sorry

Scuba · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 01:29:58 AM »

Quote from: possume22 on Dec 26, 2010, 11:31:50 PM

he will not but trail gear will and you dont need to spend the extra $160 dollars for the hub gears i have longfields but one stripped on the hub gear and the hub gear is not bad im still running it he will not warranty so i got some dirty 30 other than the gub gear catch he has he got good stuff when i bought my longs he should have said he wouldnt warranty if i dont have his hub gears and i strip the splines but you know he didnt and the real problem is i stripped one and my hub gear is fine he just said sorry

It says it on his page...
"The warranty does not cover our products if another part fails and damages our part, such as a stock hub gear breaking and damaging the splines"

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/pages/Policies.html

GreenYoterKrawler · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 05:36:32 AM »

Sounds to me like his hub didnt break, but the longfield stripped. Therefore bobby should replace it, but whadda ya gonna do

get 30's i guess. No questions asked lifetime kicks butt, plus i have had Zero problems with my 30's. I cant say that for much else on the yota

possume22 · « **Reply #25 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 03:34:51 PM »

well when you call in a order you cant read his warranty online i didnt have internet access at the time i orderd to read his warranty so you dont know and when you order they should tell you on the phone if you dont get the hub gears or dont have them and you mess up the hub splines it will not be under warranty i think the longs are great and would buy again if i got some hub gears gave to me for the satisfaction that if i had any more trouble they would be under warranty

kneedownnate · « **Reply #26 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 09:45:25 PM »

Since you're pimping tg's warranty, I'm wondering if you've actually had to have something warranted through them? I've talked to plenty of people, and read where many others say it's next to impossible to get something they claim is warranted for life replaced, often telling the customer it's their fault.

I have bobby's hub gears already but don't have the birfs. I'll be covered when I do buy his birfs and don't have to deal with a company I don't trust

possume22 · « **Reply #27 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 10:46:32 PM »

man i havent broke one yet ive been running them for year and a half so i might be in for a surprise when i do break one and go to warranty it but we will have to see all i can do is get screwed again lol then i guess i would have to buy some hub gears and and a $225 30 spline birfield from bobby so i will have a set and say i learned the hard way wich is what i should have done in the first place but after what happend with them i was to mad at the time to do that

Scuba · « **Reply #28 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 10:58:54 PM »

Quote from: possume22 on Dec 27, 2010, 10:46:32 PM

man i havent broke one yet ive been running them for year and a half so i might be in for a surprise when i do break one and go to warranty it but we will have to see all i can do is get screwed again lol then i guess i would have to buy some hub gears and and a $225 30 spline birfield from bobby so i will have a set and say i learned the hard way wich is what i should have done in the first place but after what happend with them i was to mad at the time to do that

Have you ever heard of punctuation?

possume22 · « **Reply #29 on:** Dec 27, 2010, 11:02:27 PM »

nah us rednecks hillbillies dont get taught that stuff around here

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