Author Topic: Tire Wear With a Welded Rear End (Read 7281 times)

NorCalToy · « **on:** May 31, 2009, 10:53:50 PM »

i was arguing with a friend about how much the tires actually get worn form having a welded rear, espicially since im going welded soon. have you (from experience) noticed any major difference in tire wear?

46&2 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2009, 11:18:20 PM »

I noticed a little more wear, but I learned to compensate for it by driving slowly through turns, swinging wider, etc. If you drive it like its open you will see a lot more wear. It also has to do with what tires you are running as well I would assume; my experience with the welded is only on Cooper Discoverers (old style) and MTRs. I saw more tire wear on my front tires from having a bad alignment for a couple months than I saw in a year + on the rear tires with the lincoln locker. Personally I would not hesitate to do it again on another truck.

emsvitil · « **Reply #2 on:** Jun 01, 2009, 01:27:50 AM »

If you go quick around the corner, the inside tire will unload and you won't have much wear.........

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #3 on:** Jun 01, 2009, 08:11:35 PM »

I never noticed a big difference in wear, there was a little but not anything that ever made me regret running a welded diff.

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #4 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 04:26:20 PM »

when i drove my truck on the road all the time i just had a locked front end. (lockright) finally one day being cheap i decided to weld up the rear end cause i was going to the rubicon in a week or something. i had already been there 3-4 times before but i wanted to see how much it would improve the truck. it did help it wheel but i can tell you right now i wish i never welded it after i got back. i rather of been open and had maybe a little more of an issue on the trail then burning up my tires and constantly hearing them churp in parking lots and around corners. i thought it was kinda cool for 3 days and got over it FAST. the truck got annoying to drive and wasnt as fun. get a lockright or detroit EZ locker or aussie, i promise you'll be glad you did. there cheap and its way better of a route.

TIMS89CRAWLER · « **Reply #5 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 04:47:01 PM »

every "locker" I have had has chirped around corners just like my welded diff does unless your not touching the throttle.... if you dont want the tire wear and chirping on corners run a selectable locker (arb, e-locker, ox)

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #6 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 05:57:23 PM »

ive had friends with full detroit's and the lockright style lockers and on occasion theyve chirped but its nothing compared to a welded rear end. im sure since he's discussing welding it up he has no where near the funds to drop over a $1k into his rear diff.

TIMS89CRAWLER · « **Reply #7 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 06:00:23 PM »

yep my full detroit chirped all the time under any throttle... and ya i would think thats right... lockers are spendy

toyotamobing · « **Reply #8 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 09:22:52 PM »

my old bfg ats wore down to nothing a lot faster after i welded the rear...but the tires were old and tired. just make sure you weld it up right!

jimbo74 · « **Reply #9 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 09:35:05 PM »

i chirp my tires in parking lots and around turns with an open diff

NorCalToy · « **Reply #10 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 10:29:17 PM »

Well i welded it up earlier today and went playing around on some dirt and it was awesome. it chrips some on the street and its ok. ill see how i feel about it in a few days i guess. it was a 4.10 third i got for free and it only cost me about $20 to weld up since i had to buy fluid and a tube of RTV.

i still have my stock 4.10 v6 third if i need to swap it back as well as a set of 4.37s in the garage im gonna run when i get SAS'd and then ill buy a legit locker. instead of welding it. right now welded works for me since im on a set of tires i bought for cheap and its all about wheelin this summer.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #11 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 10:42:32 PM »

I've broken every set of 4.37s I've had in the rear of my truck, and that's with 31s, just so you know.

toyotanner · « **Reply #12 on:** Jun 02, 2009, 10:44:37 PM »

yeah you will see a difference in wear but just rotate them as necessary to make them last as long as possible

kneedownnate · « **Reply #13 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 12:29:47 PM »

It'd probably be a good idea to rotate them with every oil change anyway.

emsvitil · « **Reply #14 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 01:17:12 PM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Jun 03, 2009, 12:29:47 PM

It'd probably be a good idea to rotate them with every oil change anyway.

Oil........... you're supposed to change the oil?

Dingman. · « **Reply #15 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 01:45:31 PM »

Nope oil just is more friction to slow you down.
id recommend just draining it right now!

NorCalToy · « **Reply #16 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 07:12:02 PM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Jun 02, 2009, 10:42:32 PM

I've broken every set of 4.37s I've had in the rear of my truck, and that's with 31s, just so you know.

thanks for the headsup nate. what part broke? thats weird to hear because my neighbor who i know beat the crap out of his truck wheeling said he loved his stock 4.37s and never had one problems with them...

i have both front and rear thirds, should i try to sell them instead and then afford 5.29s?

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #17 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 08:11:55 PM »

someone's not setting up gears right then if they keep breaking. if he keeps replacing them with factory 4.37 diffs then something else is going on...

kneedownnate · « **Reply #18 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 09:01:28 PM »

They've all been factory toyota set up diffs, and they've all failed the same way. The pinion gears are weak, period. Every one has broken off pinion gear teeth in the same exact manner. Years ago I did a bit of research and came up with plenty of others who'd had the same issues with the factory 4.37 gears, but that was well before I ever had my own computer so I couldn't save anything.

Broke_Okie_Ty · « **Reply #19 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 09:41:28 PM »

did you plate the spider gears when you welded it? i ran one welded 3rd for 6 years before i sold it. if you weld it right, they will last a long time. not powering through corners will help a lot with saving tire tread. either way run it till it blows up or you get gears and lockers

toyotanner · « **Reply #20 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 10:27:15 PM »

i never had a problem with my 4.37's and i ran them with 33's and 37's

NorCalToy · « **Reply #21 on:** Jun 03, 2009, 11:22:12 PM »

Quote from: Broke_Okie_Ty on Jun 03, 2009, 09:41:28 PM

did you plate the spider gears when you welded it? i ran one welded 3rd for 6 years before i sold it. if you weld it right, they will last a long time. not powering through corners will help a lot with saving tire tread. either way run it till it blows up or you get gears and lockers

nope. i welded all the spiders together and then to the carrier at the 4 possible points.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #22 on:** Jun 13, 2009, 05:43:22 PM »

my 4.37's had well over 350,000 miles on them when i took them out,

kneedownnate · « **Reply #23 on:** Jun 13, 2009, 08:19:48 PM »

My first set had around 460,000 miles indicated, but there were more because the truck had run several or more sets of 31's with the stock gearing.

Matty · « **Reply #24 on:** Jun 13, 2009, 09:18:41 PM »

Quote from: TIMS89CRAWLER on Jun 02, 2009, 06:00:23 PM

yep my full detroit chirped all the time under any throttle... and ya i would think thats right... lockers are spendy

thats weird. when i had my aussie in the rear it would ratchet in turns unless i was on throttle in which case it would chirp, and I run a full detroit in the rear now and it doesnt make a sound at all. You wouldnt even know its there until you get onto trail. I was actually worried something was wrong at first but it works perfect.

Kaptain · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 14, 2009, 06:10:07 AM »

I'm running a spooled rear with 37's and I have no regrets.

Haven't noticed much additional tire wear, slightly more body roll around corners, and it barely every chirps if I'm aired up.

Run it... anybody that tells you that they don't like it is just a panzy

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