Glen's budget rebuild

[Gittinit]

no problem  with tierod clearance, 


i have some 1/8 inch plate  that im going to  use,  but im getting it  mounted  so i can move the thing around,  i can  put the outside plating on later

the  support on the inside of the frame is what  really  matters,  and  i'm not that hard  on my truck,  but yes  i do plan to plate the entire  front area of the frame

My opinion >> Your gonna wish you mounted the box further foward, you need to sleve that frame asap, 1/8 inch plate isn't enough, 3/16 would be my acceptable minimun, but I used 5/16. The outside of the frame uses thicker plating from most vendors, so why would the inside of the frame be more important to plate than the outside?


Hey Glen over build this part 2xs as much as you'd think it would take. 

[CTENG in KS]

x2 on this...I started with 3/16th plating and recently doubled up on the outside cause after the con the box was loosening up.

[79coyotefrg]

My opinion >> Your gonna wish you mounted the box further foward, you need to sleve that frame asap, 1/8 inch plate isn't enough, 3/16 would be my acceptable minimun, but I used 5/16. The outside of the frame uses thicker plating from most vendors, so why would the inside of the frame be more important to plate than the outside?


Hey Glen over build this part 2xs as much as you'd think it would take. 

really?/   ok  um  i think i have some 1/4 inch stuff,  i'll have to check,   might have to wait till i caN get  something  slightly thicker

[DTB]

My opinion >> Your gonna wish you mounted the box further foward,

i agree with this as well...do you have a picture straight from the side showing drag and tie rod? I would use 1/4 inch plate for that frame

[79coyotefrg]

My opinion >> Your gonna wish you mounted the box further foward,

further forward   its  all the way forward without chopping the body mount,  i have no need to move the axle further forward  than the Allpro springs  make it,  1 inch i think

[Gittinit]

really?/   ok  um  i think i have some 1/4 inch stuff,  i'll have to check,   might have to wait till i caN get  something  slightly thicker

You can get some pipe niples from the local hardware store to use for sleves, just cut off the threads. Oh and that 1/4 would be the ticket. When you add the drop hanger later on You may have to move the box again becouse of tierod/draglink clearance. You did say you were gonna get some 35s right? if so further foward is easy if done now.

Incase ya don't have one one of those step drill bitts is the 3rd best way to open up some holes in the frame . 1st would be a plasma cutter, and my prefered method. 2nd would be a torch.
Make the frame holes on the inside as big as the sleves and the outside Holes(of the frame) can be as big as the welds that butt the tubes to the 1/4 plate. Get everything flush and sitting flat before welding it up solid. You can even put extra holes in your plates for some plug welds. I highly recommend it, hit its not nescissary.

I wish I were there to help!    Heck if your stuff was up here it would be so easy. 

[DTB]

i used a big ass drill bit...just be careful if that baby kicks back though! 


a small hole saw would work perfect for this

[79coyotefrg]

yea  i thought about the hole saw 

Infernal said these springs  move the axle forward 1 inch,  and where the box is now  the  tierod and draglink   wont come  even close to each other,  at the closest  maybe 2 inchs

[Gittinit]

pics are decieving , so it may be the angle of the pic

[79coyotefrg]

pics are decieving , so it may be the angle of the pic

yea  the  front of the box  is  about 3/4 inch forward of the  bolt hole for the stock bumper bracket

[46&2]

Oh and that 1/4 would be the ticket. When you add the drop hanger later on You may have to move the box again becouse of tierod/draglink clearance. You did say you were gonna get some 35s right? if so further foward is easy if done now.

I didnt know you planned to do a drop hanger later on, if that is the case then yeah you should move the box foreward now. Big PITA to do it again with the plating. I regret not thinking ahead on mine I wish I had mounted mine about an inch and a half further foreward.

[Rocksurfer]

Looks like the pitman is over that draglink which means they're gonna hit. You should move it forward like cteng's

[79coyotefrg]

I didnt know you planned to do a drop hanger later on, if that is the case then yeah you should move the box foreward now. Big PITA to do it again with the plating. I regret not thinking ahead on mine I wish I had mounted mine about an inch and a half further foreward.

i didnt  really plan on  a drop hanger

[MiniSimp]

Looks like the pitman is over that draglink which means they're gonna hit. You should move it forward like cteng's

Optical illusion, It'll clear just fine. Besides, the tie rod moves back on compression.

[79coyotefrg]

i'll try andget a pic today but  there no doubt in my mind  they will never touch

i ve been sick all night  so  i will probably stay on the   or in bed  today 

[79coyotefrg]

ok  what you guys think

[DTB]

looks better

[skipnrocks]

Awesome!!!   Looks good!

[Gittinit]

i didnt  really plan on  a drop hanger

I thought you said??? Well that was the planning stages, and everything is up in the air at that point. Mabye I'm confused too, couse I'm helping on a couple builds at the moment.

ok  what you guys think

Isnt it amazing the differance a pic makes. Good job Glen

[79coyotefrg]

thank you 

yea i have no need  to make it any taller,  i was talking with Infernal  about  taking the bottom leaf  off the  packs  to  bring it down a  tiny bit

[skipnrocks]

thank you 

  i was talking with Infernal  about  taking the bottom leaf  off the  packs  to  bring it down a  tiny bit

How much would taking a leaf out lower it?

[79coyotefrg]

not sure,  depends  on which leaf,   i will probably wait  and see how it sits  when i get it finished  with bumper and winch

[Plekto]

Looks too new.  Needs more dirt.   

[MiniSimp]

ok  what you guys think

I think it's too far forward, move it back.

[79coyotefrg]

[79coyotefrg]

hey  i know  the frame needs to be plated,  but what about a  brace  over to the  radiator crossmember 

[79coyotefrg]

HEY  do i have to cut the body like AJ did in this pic

[Gittinit]

hey  i know  the frame needs to be plated,  but what about a  brace  over to the  radiator crossmember 

Dennis said he was doing something like that to his rig. I couldn't understand how it would make the frame more ridigid. He seemed convinced that it would all be good though. He said he could see his frame tweak and move as he steered back and forth, and that was before the hydro assist.

[4inchToyotas]

I cut mine just a tad to fit the box. Maybe not as much..I'll take pics when I get home.

[MiniSimp]

HEY  do i have to cut the body like AJ did in this pic

I didn't cut mine, I'm using a flat pitman arm though.